vg|52nd EBTC-BBO1,OPEN-F2,I,1,16,ENGLAND,0,IRELAND,0| rs|4HN+1,4HN+1,3NN+2,3NN+2,4NW+1,5CW=,3NN+1,3NN+1,2HE=,2HW=,4SNx=,2SN+2,3NE+2,2DW+2,3DW+1,2SW+2,3NS-1,3NS-1,3NS+2,3NN=,2SW-2,2DNx-1,4SSx-2,5HWx-1,4SN=,4SN=,3CN-1,2HW+1,2NE-1,3NE-1,4HN+2,4SS+1| pn|ROBSON,CARROLL,FORRESTER,GARVEY,McGANN,GOLD,HANLON,BAKHSHI|pg|| qx|o1|st||md|3SJ52HJ96DJ9742CA9,SK874H32DQ8653C85,SQTHAK754DACKQJ73,SA963HQT8DKTCT642|sv|o|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|djneill: N/S cc: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ECBOC14/OpenTeams/England/Forrester-Robson.pdf|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I think great match for us here|pg|| nt|djneill: E/W cc: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ECBOC14/OpenTeams/Ireland/Carroll-Garvey.pdf|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: or click on their profile|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: first thing, I'm reliefed I have the same cards as players do :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|hK|nt|djneill: 2@h = weak raise (< 8)|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h9|pc|h2|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|s2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|s5|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pc|s7|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c1|st||md|3SJ52HJ96DJ9742CA9,SK874H32DQ8653C85,SQTHAK754DACKQJ73,SA963HQT8DKTCT642|sv|o|nt|ahollan1: facing us left: David Bakhshi center: Kristian Sentic right: Hugh McGann|pg|| mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) any 17+|pg|| mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1H!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 0-7 or 22+ bal |pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: doubt anyone has seen option 2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@H = a) 3+suit, BAL, 11-13 HCP b) 4+suit, 17+ HCP, if 4 then 5+@C/@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 5+suit, 5-7 hcp|pg|| mb|p|mb|4H|nt|ahollan1: 2@H confirms 17+ hcp|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: EW standard count but they adjust attitude usually standard, but discard = reverse attitude|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i've never seen that combination|pg|| nt|Aurora: Hello all, welcome to the Final Round 19|pg|| nt|Aurora: Live video from this table here on Channel 2: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|nt|Aurora: Here you can see the players and their CC: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/match.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=23&matchid=BBO-1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: we do have voice commentary for the Open Room of our match|pg|| nt|ahollan1: this is 2nd of 9 matches in Phase 2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3 days of 3x16 board matches|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h3|pg|| nt|ahollan1: at the end top 3 earn medals top 6 countries earn berth in 2015 Bermuda Bowl|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o2|st||md|4SK964HQT2DQJT7CT3,ST83HJ765D95CKJ65,SJ5HAK93DAK8CAQ87,SAQ72H84D6432C942|sv|n|mb|p|nt|djneill: e/w playing a polish club|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|nt|djneill: 3rd seat fav, but nothing to reall bid is there - nope 1@h|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: ofc he does|pg|| nt|djneill: really*|pg|| mb|d|nt|Aurora: Hello all, welcome to the Final Round 19|pg|| nt|Aurora: Live video from this table here on Channel 1: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|20-22|mb|p|nt|Aurora: Here you can see the players and their CC: http://livebridge.net/bbo/wbf/match.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=23&matchid=BBO-1|pg|| nt|djneill: I am told e/w have added carotene to the polish club - it's actually the carrot club|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|c8|nt|djneill: well, 1@h solved the heart suit but may make North fear the @sA is offsides for sure|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|athene: hi good afternoon everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: I'm gonna quote my friend: "I haven't passed at this vulnerabilites and this position since 1985". Him being 30 years old :)|pg|| nt|djneill: North might be preparing to endplay someone with the long club|pg|| nt|djneill: quite a conservative infant he was|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| pc|s2|nt|djneill: welcome william frisby|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dA|nt|djneill: ok so @sA with East, and West opened... hmm, good chance the @cK is onside but is he gonna finesse|pg|| mc|11|nt|Walddk2: We also have voice commentary in this room. http://webutil.bridgebase.com/v2/news_fetch.php?id=743 for instructions if you are not familiar with the voice procedure.|pg|| nt|djneill: he did, he did finesse|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: he did finesse the @C|pg|| pg|| qx|c2|st||md|4SK964HQT2DQJT7CT3,ST83HJ765D95CKJ65,SJ5HAK93DAK8CAQ87,SAQ72H84D6432C942|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: another strong version of the 2-way 1@C|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: opening 2N would be 19-21|pg|| mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 8-10, 4+suit|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = art game force|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@D = 4/5@S no other 5+-suit|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dJ|nt|ahollan1: a number of times this week we've seen co-creator of Carrot Club playing on vugraph|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Anders "the carrot" Morath played in Seniors for Sweden|pg|| pc|s8|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg|| pg|| qx|o3|st||md|1SQT8HK972D9753C53,S754HA86DAKQ8CJT8,SJ932HQTDJT42C762,SAK6HJ543D6CAKQ94|sv|e|mb|p|nt|djneill: thanks jurica|pg|| mb|1N|an|14-16|mb|p|nt|djneill: 14-16 nt|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|djneill: so East sees 31-33 HCP with a stiff and now likely a great club fit (unless west is 3352)|pg|| nt|athene: ok i am surprised about 3NT|pg|| nt|athene: shouldn't west bid 3@D or 3@H - his partner could have a singleton spade?|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Indeed|pg|| mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: 3NT is not the correct bid with a minimum|pg|| nt|athene: yes, that might tip them off to the right lead sometimes, but i think in this situation it's better to bid the hand a bit more scientifically|pg|| nt|djneill: some pdships are all about the stoppers, and some are all about the minor suit fit, West may be thinking 3red would indicate a great club fit or max|pg|| nt|jesperdall: And I am not sure if West is minimum opposite long clubs...|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|s2|nt|jesperdall: But...they land on their feet - might easily end up in a no play slam here|pg|| nt|djneill: that was an amazing stop by East, in a random situation I think|pg|| nt|athene: a kibitzer says that 3nt shows 4333|pg|| nt|athene: but in these situations it is much more important for the shapely hand to show its distribution and the balanced hand to show where the strength lies|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| nt|athene: then you know if your singleton is facing xxx or KQ10|pg|| pc|s3|pc|sK|nt|djneill: West is ducking to rectify the count, as there are 11 tops|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|djneill: unblocking the @hA would allow the squeeze to work against either N or S in hearts-diamonds (or hearts-spades|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|nt|djneill: well not @h-@s sorry|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|djneill: Robson can't just pitch a @s innocently I think|pg|| pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d3|nt|athene: if the major-suit guards were split, there would be a double squeeze around diamonds|pg|| pc|h6|nt|athene: as it is, robson just holds majors and forrester the diamonds|pg|| pc|s9|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|h9|nt|djneill: it's forrester who has to do the deed, pitching the @sJ thanks to Robson's @d pitches|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|h5|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dQ|nt|jesperdall: In any case, this board is a potential swing in favour of Ireland|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|s6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|hJ|pc|sT|pg|| nt|djneill: good play and defense|pg|| pg|| qx|c3|st||md|1SQT8HK972D9753C53,S754HA86DAKQ8CJT8,SJ932HQTDJT42C762,SAK6HJ543D6CAKQ94|sv|e|nt|ahollan1: gold-bakhshi use variable NT nv; good11-14 vul: 15-17|pg|| mb|p|mb|1C|nt|ahollan1: 1@C/1@D both are 2+ covering different ranges when BAL|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C a) nat b) BAL v: 12-14 nv: 15-17|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2S!|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i just don't know about the bids after 1N :(|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but Bakhshi surely looking for 6@C|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i wouldn't be surprised if 2@S either @C or artificial game force|pg|| mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 4@H convinces me that 4@D was splinter rather than RKC in @C|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Carroll's 1N was 14-16|pg|| pc|hQ|nt|ahollan1: nice slam investigation and stop|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d3|pc|c8|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cK|pc|d5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ahollan1: relayers could find out early about 4333 shape to stop in 3N|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|s6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|h4|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: but relayers would also identify same west hand with either major suit doubleton for the near-cold slam|pg|| pg|| qx|o4|st||md|2SAK8H2DKJ9862CA62,SJ643HT74DQTCT874,S52HKJ86DA543CJ93,SQT97HAQ953D7CKQ5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|djneill: Forrester has a nice hand for Passing, is he gonna do something light or serious|pg|| mb|p|mb|3H!|an|asking|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|athene: well, KJ8x loses its lustre a little when it's opened over you|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: Robson takes control|pg|| nt|djneill: I think 3@c should be like a mixed raise here - who would want to bid 3@c as a passed hand vulnerable|pg|| nt|djneill: Robson, we read your book!|pg|| nt|djneill: (Partnership Bidding in Bridge)|pg|| pc|cQ|nt|djneill: anyone like Garvey's lead?|pg|| nt|athene: forrester can duck this and drop the 9 from hand, i suppose|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Could be a winner - I like|pg|| pc|c2|nt|djneill: Queen from KQ |pg|| pc|c8|pc|c3|pg|| nt|djneill: @c8 discouraging for the Jack|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Re bidding, how about 2NT from Forrester, rather than 3@d?|pg|| nt|djneill: so the danger would be if @d 3-0 offside, then just 8 top tricks, but East is guarding the @h and @c, so might come under serious pressure on the run of the @d|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|djneill: yes I think 3@d was heavy|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|dJ|nt|vugraphzcm: Garvey laughing no more cards? :)|pg|| pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|h3|pg|| pc|d9|nt|jesperdall: 3NT is the most like game, and 2NT points in that direction|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d4|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d8|pc|h4|pc|h6|pc|sT|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Forrester replying "hopefully not" :)|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|s2|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|h8|pc|sQ|pg|| nt|djneill: good defense by garvey, straining against the endplay|pg|| pc|h2|pc|s4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c9|pc|cK|nt|djneill: West got endplayed instead|pg|| pc|cA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|c5|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Partners can be so annoying ;)|pg|| pg|| qx|c4|st||md|2SAK8H2DKJ9862CA62,SJ643HT74DQTCT874,S52HKJ86DA543CJ93,SQT97HAQ953D7CKQ5|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|nt|ahollan1: some think 6@C might make on some compound squeeze|pg|| mb|2D|nt|ahollan1: a squeeze variation that i've never understood well enought to envision|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|ahollan1: what a difference in hand evaluation by Hanlon versus Forrester|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Forrester made courtesy raise Hanlon [the poker player] blasts 3N|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|eamongall: http://livebridge.net/youtube/ for those who want to see .. choose your camera |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i think @C7 = std attitude|pg|| nt|ahollan1: which surprises me|pg|| nt|ahollan1: but Gold not really anxious to see partner shift|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c9|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @CQ continuation pretty clear in context of the trick 1 signal|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|dK|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o5|st||md|3SQ872HKQDKQT5CJT2,SJ4H87642DJ876CK6,SKT95HA53D94C8754,SA63HJT9DA32CAQ93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|jesperdall: Anyway, well fought by declarer, earning an extra trick|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: 14-16 nt|pg|| mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: always difficult when the takeout hand (south) is not the balancing seat, as West could have a very nice hand|pg|| pc|dK|nt|jesperdall: Indeed - good point|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d9|pc|dA|pg|| nt|djneill: that's what I see on the dummy when I lead kings lol|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| nt|jesperdall: ;)|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Still waiting for the CR score on board 3 - oh, they stopped in 5@c, well done EW|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|djneill: yes, kind of a random auction there too, but clearly West's range was more like 12-14 not 14-16 so it was easier to stop|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cT|pc|s4|pc|c5|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Tournament information: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dQ|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|hK|pc|h4|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzcm: Carroll added wrong card from dummy :)|pg|| pg|| qx|c5|st||md|3SQ872HKQDKQT5CJT2,SJ4H87642DJ876CK6,SKT95HA53D94C8754,SA63HJT9DA32CAQ93|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C a) nat b) BAL v: 12-14 nv: 15-17|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|nt|ahollan1: not sure why 2@D rebid rather than 2@H maybe a transfer situation after the strong NT rebid|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pc|s4|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: @CJT falling doesn't hurt declarer at all|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|h6|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d4|pc|dA|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o6|st||md|4ST94HK9653DCAK985,SQ3HQ7DQT872CQ762,SJ87652H84DAKJ9C4,SAKHAJT2D6543CJT3|sv|e|mb|1C!|an|strong|mb|1H|nt|djneill: 1@c carrot/polish: weak NT or any strong|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: because Garvey was so confused how 8@D was left in dummy :)|pg|| mb|2C!|an|!D|nt|athene: carrol might have 2@C transfer here?|pg|| mb|2S|mb|3D!|nt|athene: this gives you the advantage of negative free bids AND forcing ones|pg|| nt|djneill: N-S bid the majors, what else are you gonna do with majors, Pass?|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: long way to go still, but Ireleand needs some victories to get into the Bermuda Bowl|pg|| pc|sK|nt|djneill: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/RunningScores/Asp/RoundTeamsConditStatClassicMod.asp?qtournid=1020&qshowflag=1|pg|| nt|athene: i am not a huge fan of this double|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg|| nt|djneill: this was an attempt to get into the bermuda bowl a little more quickly|pg|| nt|athene: perhaps he is simply hoping that they will need to use the hearts as a trick source|pg|| nt|athene: and his @HAJ10x will prove annoying|pg|| nt|athene: but @SAK tight is not particularly good - it shows trumps are breaking and it just means the opponents have their values elsewhere|pg|| nt|athene: if you are going to have two trump tricks, @SQJ10x is what you want :)|pg|| nt|athene: because then opps might have two losers where they were hoping for none|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|s9|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: you would think if east had all the top spades he would have cashed them to stop diamond ruffs|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|athene: so forrester should not be too scared of a 3-1 trump break|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|h8|pg|| mc|10|nt|djneill: sporting double, just did not work this time|pg|| pg|| qx|c6|st||md|4ST94HK9653DCAK985,SQ3HQ7DQT872CQ762,SJ87652H84DAKJ9C4,SAKHAJT2D6543CJT3|sv|e|mb|1C!|nt|ahollan1: yet-another 1@C|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@H usually max of 16 hcp|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = F1|pg|| nt|ahollan1: F1 = forcing 1 round FG = forcing to game F2N = forcing to 2NT, etc|pg|| mb|2C!|mb|p|nt|ady: hi all|pg|| nt|ady: hi Al|pg|| mb|2S!|nt|ahollan1: welcome David|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: have to lead A@H and another to beat 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 2@C usually 12+ hcp and either 3-fit or BAL, no stopper|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@S = 8-11|pg|| pc|d4|pc|h3|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|s4|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|h4|pc|cT|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sK|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c5|pc|c7|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o7|st||md|1SKQT87H72DT752CT8,S643H653DAK863C76,SJ5HKJ94DJCKQJ542,SA92HAQT8DQ94CA93|sv|b|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2S!|nt|djneill: 2@d = bad weak 2, as here, or 17+ 4441's|pg|| mb|2N|mb|p|nt|djneill: the 4441's are meant to scare opponents but really it doesn't come up hardly much, so East comes in|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h3|pc|hK|nt|athene: quite often a pre-empt pushes the opponents into a game they would not otherwise bid|pg|| pc|hA|pg|| nt|djneill: Robson had no entries I guess, so abandoned @s quickly|pg|| nt|athene: everything is nice for EW now, thanks to that delicious @D8|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|athene: now the @D9 to the ace|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|c2|pg|| nt|athene: then he will finesse the @h8|pg|| nt|athene: and emerge with many tricks|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|cK|pg|| pc|dK|pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|c4|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s8|pg|| nt|athene: of course EW might get pushed into 3nt even if south doesn't open|pg|| nt|athene: for example north might open 3@C and east just take a punt at 3nt|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c7|st||md|1SKQT87H72DT752CT8,S643H653DAK863C76,SJ5HKJ94DJCKQJ542,SA92HAQT8DQ94CA93|sv|b|nt|ahollan1: i think hanlon was supposed to do something else with 6+@S with 2@S being 4 or 5-suit|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|2C!|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 2@C = 10-16 6+@C or 5@C 4M 1OM|pg|| mb|p|mb|2D|nt|eamongall: we did some of those in practice ... "they open we overcall and partner has something" |pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: talking about last hand |pg|| nt|ahollan1: hi Eamon i thought Hanlon's 2@S rebid ostensibly 4/5@S|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| nt|ahollan1: so he was supposed to do something else|pg|| pc|d9|nt|eamongall: but to bid 4@S off 3 top trumps and one ace and lots of queens |pg|| pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d5|pc|d3|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|h5|nt|eamongall: I don't know for certain al |pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h8|pc|s7|pc|d6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s3|nt|eamongall: but with his pard offering 2 suits .. I doubt it is 4 |pg|| mc|10|nt|ahollan1: roland just announced this bit of trivia in previous set teams from group B outscored teams from group A 103-77 VPs|pg|| pg|| qx|o8|st||md|2SKT5HAJ9873D876CA,SAJ2HKDKQ932CQJT3,S98H42DJT5CK87642,SQ7643HQT65DA4C95|sv|o|mb|1N|nt|athene: 1NT for a lot of people, that west hand|pg|| nt|djneill: West correctly evaluated the !AKxxx as a likely source of tricks, and vulnerable it's so lucrative|pg|| nt|djneill: 1n 14-16|pg|| mb|p|mb|2C|mb|2H|nt|athene: experts have found that it pays to use the strong notrump as a general clearing-house for a lot of medium-strength hands|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: 5332, 6322, 5422 and so on|pg|| nt|djneill: hmm, garvey might take another swing, but this time the trumps are not in the right place|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: also if you have a singleton king your chances of scoring it are way higher if you open 1nt|pg|| nt|djneill: vulnerability is about right tho for a pen X|pg|| nt|athene: Rodwell kept records for a decade and he found that singleton king was the single "distortion" which scores highest in 1nt openers|pg|| nt|djneill: what would you all do here|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Think, for a starter!|pg|| nt|athene: a lot depends on what west's double of 2@H would have meant|pg|| mb|d|nt|djneill: it's on|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: even if it's takeout i wouldn't do it with the singleton as partner will pass too often when it's wrong|pg|| mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: weird|pg|| mb|p|pc|h4|nt|jesperdall: Very weird - 3@d, I don't get that|pg|| nt|athene: i don't think anyone did anything mad here?|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Singleton King is fine for defense|pg|| nt|athene: it was just a bit unfortunate the way things worked out|pg|| pc|h5|nt|athene: what is west supposed to do?|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Garvey explaining to Forrester he made a bad bid (X)|pg|| nt|athene: i very much doubt the double was penalty|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Well, East obviously took his time, so I think pulling is..well...|pg|| nt|athene: and even if it was, west might not want to pass it with a singleton|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Bit ok, if double was take out|pg|| nt|jesperdall: But|pg|| nt|athene: well east took so long to double, that suggests the double was not penalty|pg|| pc|hA|pc|hK|pg|| nt|athene: if they had the agreement it was penalty he would have had nothing to think about, would he?|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Well, he could pass|pg|| nt|jesperdall: East, I mean|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|s2|pc|h2|pc|h6|pg|| nt|athene: well, he has 2@S as an option|pg|| nt|athene: if double is not agreed as penalty then i think your options are pass and 2@S|pg|| nt|athene: that's why Garvey said his double was a bad bid, i suspect|pg|| nt|jesperdall: 2@s is not a good bid - very often, you run into heart ruffs|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Unless 1NT opener has a singleton, of course ;)|pg|| nt|djneill: meanwhile the double didn't cost so much in 4@s - as game was not even reached at the other table|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 7-6@D was souths discards|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg|| nt|djneill: thanks jurica, it is difficult to catch their spots sometimes so thanks for the correction|pg|| pc|cT|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|h7|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c8|st||md|2SKT5HAJ9873D876CA,SAJ2HKDKQ932CQJT3,S98H42DJT5CK87642,SQ7643HQT65DA4C95|sv|o|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 2+@D a) nat b) BAL, 18-19|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H!|nt|ahollan1: 2@H = 5@S 4+@H, 6-11|pg|| nt|ady: might get to 4@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|2S|nt|ady: may make|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: won't get there|pg|| mb|p|nt|ady: no Gold not optimistic|pg|| pc|s9|nt|eamongall: When Sweden and Monaco and Ireland get up and running Group A teams will be winning :) |pg|| nt|ahollan1: so much wastage i minors and only 3-trump i'm sure he just hopes to make 2@S|pg|| nt|ahollan1: trump lead normal on the auction|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d5|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|cK|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o9|st||md|3SA7HQ4DQJT96CA963,SKQJ53HJT73DACJT5,ST82HAK6DK8432CQ8,S964H9852D75CK742|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|djneill: 1@d promises 5 (or 4441)|pg|| mb|2D!|an|inv minor|mb|d!|nt|athene: west has a familiar dilemma|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: hmm, was West actually thinking of buying this contract somewhere? I would try 2@s for the lead|pg|| mb|2H|nt|athene: does he double to get all the suits into the game, or overcall for the lead?|pg|| nt|athene: if north is just about to bid 3NT you wish you had bid 2@S|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I'd bid 2@s any day|pg|| mb|2N|nt|athene: yes, after opponents have had an inverted minor auction, you don't expect your side to have a good contract without a lot of shape|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: so you are looking to help the defence really|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: whew|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Correct|pg|| nt|athene: now he'll emerge with his secret weapon - the @SK|pg|| pc|sK|nt|jesperdall: So his plan worked splendidly!|pg|| nt|djneill: wonder if they would end up in 5@d if 2@s was bid, which makes|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Had he bid spades, NS may well have ended up in 5@d|pg|| nt|athene: very difficult|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|nt|athene: two balanced hands and a stopper...|pg|| pc|sA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|c8|nt|athene: but i agree, after an overcall, you are much more worried about 3NT, because you know you are getting hit with a lead from a 5-card suit|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s3|pc|d3|pc|h2|pc|c9|pg|| nt|djneill: Robson was hoping for blockage or 4-3 spades, more likely than 5-2 spades and the @dA|pg|| nt|athene: after a double you hope the defence only have 4-card suits so even if they get in and cash one, that may just be 3 tricks and their entry|pg|| mc|8|nt|jesperdall: Without a spade bid, we all end up in 3NT|pg|| pg|| qx|c9|st||md|3SA7HQ4DQJT96CA963,SKQJ53HJT73DACJT5,ST82HAK6DK8432CQ8,S964H9852D75CK742|sv|e|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ady: need to play 5@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@C = forcing a) BAL, 11-13 b) any 17+|pg|| nt|ady: 3NT down on spade lead|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i expect 2@H response|pg|| nt|ahollan1: which includes FG with both minors|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: soooo close Al|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 3N = to play opposite BAL 11-13|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|ady: this will be flat|pg|| nt|ahollan1: i wonder if 2@H response gets them to 5@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if not - maybe it gets north to declare then what does bakhshi lead?|pg|| nt|eamongall: looks like same down 1 ... |pg|| nt|eamongall: hmmm I am repeating what was said by others |pg|| pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s6|mc|8|pg|| qx|o10|st||md|4ST3HKT853DKT9764C,SKJ642HQ76D8CT543,SAQ98H4DA3CAKQ872,S75HAJ92DQJ52CJ96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|athene: fantunes bid 1nt - 3nt :) then west probably doubles for a spade lead|pg|| nt|jesperdall: But - if North shows genuine diamonds, South can see that tricks may be too slow in 3NT|pg|| nt|djneill: Robson had no major-minor preempt available, but we might guess fireworks coming up|pg|| mb|1D!|an|!h|mb|p|nt|athene: 1@S or 2@S from north now?|pg|| nt|djneill: this firework is going to go off in their face tho|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|natural / waiting|nt|djneill: Robson had great hopes|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: robson is beginning to hate his 6-5|pg|| mb|3C|mb|p|nt|djneill: that squealing you hear is brakes|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|athene: i guess you play on clubs, hope for 5 clubs on a 4-3 break, and bits and pieces everywhere else|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Disciplined pass by Forrester|pg|| nt|djneill: on brd 7, the pushy 3NT was not reached and so ireland is back in it|pg|| pc|sK|nt|djneill: imaginative lead|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Garvey: "I think he will guess that suit right"|pg|| nt|athene: sometimes you pin something in declarer's hand; sometimes you deceive him|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Garvey's comment might help also to unblock that 10@S :)|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Hmm - what does that imply about the J@s ? |pg|| pc|sA|pc|s7|nt|jesperdall: I mean, the comment?|pg|| nt|athene: but when you have length and no spot cards in dummy's suit, i think it is a bit dodgy to lead an honour|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Agreed|pg|| nt|athene: you know that long-term this suit is only bringing happiness for the enemy|pg|| nt|djneill: drop the ten, give West the satisfaction of having dropped a stiff honor|pg|| nt|jesperdall: ;)|pg|| pc|sT|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: nicely done|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|c4|pg|| nt|djneill: the @cJ doubles as suit preference besides being smoke for declarer to ponder|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|d6|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|d8|nt|vugraphzcm: table atmosphere on channel 1: http://livebridge.net/youtube/|pg|| pc|d3|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: tournament information: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| nt|djneill: 9 tops at the moment, what next|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|h6|pg|| pc|c8|pc|dJ|pc|h8|pc|s6|pg|| nt|djneill: good pitches by garvey, only hope is that West has @hK|pg|| pc|c2|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|h9|pc|dK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hK|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|c10|st||md|4ST3HKT853DKT9764C,SKJ642HQ76D8CT543,SAQ98H4DA3CAKQ872,S75HAJ92DQJ52CJ96|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: strong version of the forcing 2-way 1@C|pg|| mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2C!|nt|ahollan1: 1@H = 8-10, 4+suit|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@C = art game force|pg|| mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ahollan1: usually @C or BAL|pg|| nt|ady: 660 good score for England OR|pg|| nt|ahollan1: McGann just keeps forcing Hanlon to devalue his hand|pg|| nt|ahollan1: expect 3N now for no big swig|pg|| nt|ahollan1: swig OR swing|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: but maybe not 11 tricks|pg|| nt|ahollan1: looking at video mcgann could be asleep|pg|| nt|vugraphzcn: maybe the operator is asleep :)|pg|| nt|eamongall: I can see the shoe end of Grainne Barton doing her NPC duties |pg|| nt|ahollan1: top level for video http://livebridge.net/youtube/ our table channel 2|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: no Kristian has been moving|pg|| nt|eamongall: I recall Bakhshi playing as a young junior back when vugraph theatre was transparancies on a projector |pg|| nt|ahollan1: that's when spelling was viewgraph|pg|| nt|ahollan1: and for a short time we had pendergraph|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c8|nt|ahollan1: had to use my encyclopedia in very distant past bridge-o-rama was the mechanism to involve audience|pg|| pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|h2|nt|ahollan1: @H spots protect declarer from EW taking too many quick tricks but on actual lie of cards no worries|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: just not sure if he'll reach a point where safe to take @S finesse|pg|| pc|s4|nt|eamongall: Dublin will be closing down for 1.5 hours now as the Dubs GAA team take the field |pg|| nt|ahollan1: i don't think he can afford this finesse|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|h3|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|h5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d2|pc|d6|pc|cT|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|h6|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o11|st||md|1SKT43HAT973D74C64,S972HJ64DQ862CT98,S86HQ2DAJT953CQJ2,SAQJ5HK85DKCAK753|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|djneill: if N had opened 3@d, wonder what West would do over a double by East|pg|| mb|2D|mb|d|nt|athene: what is he going to do now?|pg|| nt|djneill: probably the same thing as now but with more sweat|pg|| nt|athene: well, 2@DX isn't game|pg|| mb|r|nt|athene: this, however... :)|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|djneill: 1@d allowed West to Pass over 1@h to show a real stinker|pg|| mb|p|nt|athene: i wonder if robson expects a little more from forrester here, for this sequence? on the logic that with 10-ish counts and 6+ diamonds he will open 3@D in third, NV|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h2|nt|athene: declarer can't get to his hand to get a heart away on the @DQ|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| nt|athene: so even though he can knock out the @DA now and north is out of hearts, it doesn't help|pg|| nt|athene: south will get in with his @SK in the fullness of time, and the @h9 will prove to be higher than the 8|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pg|| pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|d5|pc|h8|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d2|pc|dA|pc|dK|pg|| nt|djneill: I believe the @d5, and I always marvel how much the world greats can get out of the tiniest differences in spots|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c3|pc|d4|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Why did declarer not set up the clubs before drawing trumps?|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|h3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h7|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|djneill: is the @h7 worth anything if you use it to take the last trick?|pg|| nt|jesperdall: ;)|pg|| nt|athene: yes, 50 (in this instance)|pg|| pg|| qx|c11|st||md|1SKT43HAT973D74C64,S972HJ64DQ862CT98,S86HQ2DAJT953CQJ2,SAQJ5HK85DKCAK753|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|d|nt|ahollan1: 1@D = 10-16, unbal 4+@D|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|mb|d|mb|p|nt|eamongall: Its a wonderful sunny day here in Dublin ... hope its not raining in Croatia |pg|| nt|vugraphzcn: sunny day too|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: i live in desert - what is meaning of "raining"|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s9|pc|s8|pg|| pc|c6|nt|ady: touvh and go here|pg|| pc|c9|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|d3|pg|| nt|ady: touch|pg|| nt|ahollan1: down 1 = 5 imps down 2 = 9 imps |pg|| nt|ady: I think will make|pg|| nt|ahollan1: oh right -- @D8 probabl won't come into play|pg|| nt|ahollan1: in fact looking at all cards i think overtrick possible now|pg|| nt|ady: depends whether he plays Gold for KQXX diamonds has not got the entries to take 2 finesses|pg|| nt|ahollan1: if Gold had that he might have bid 1N rather than 1@H|pg|| nt|eamongall: I confidently doubled Hanlon in 4@Hs a few years back and he stuffed me for an overtrick |pg|| nt|ahollan1: and it seems on the auction that @H must be 22|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c3|pc|d7|pc|cT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|h6|pc|d5|pc|sJ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| nt|ahollan1: he does seem to be in position to lose 2@D now|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|c7|pc|h3|pc|d6|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dA|pc|c5|pc|h7|pc|d8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o12|st||md|2SQJ76HQDQT96C9863,S832HAT2D2CAQT754,SAT95HK64DAJ754CJ,SK4HJ98753DK83CK2|sv|n|nt|athene: "another 200 if they had been doubled!" thinks robson|pg|| mb|2C!|an|precision|nt|athene: i am not sure if double was penalty for NS though even after the XX|pg|| nt|djneill: 2@c 6+ or 5 and a major|pg|| mb|d!|an|t/o|mb|2H|an|NF|mb|2S|nt|athene: 2@S describes south's hand quite nicely now|pg|| mb|3H|mb|3S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|nt|djneill: double could work like a charm|pg|| mb|p|nt|jesperdall: But bidding 4@s is not trivial...|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: man, East had the chance there|pg|| nt|djneill: oh sorry I missed it!|pg|| nt|djneill: go east!|pg|| nt|athene: 4@S is some bid|pg|| nt|djneill: vulnerable this time, I guess it will be half the time|pg|| pc|cA|nt|athene: i think if you have 4@S on here, partner already bid it - he knows you have a singleton heart, pretty much|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c2|nt|djneill: what fortunate luck that East's spot is the 2 and not the 9, for suit preference|pg|| pc|c6|pg|| pc|d2|nt|djneill: there it is|pg|| nt|jesperdall: South is fearing some sort of double fit, I guess, with four low clubs - but still|pg|| nt|djneill: Robson has taken Larry Cohen off his friend list on facebook|pg|| nt|jesperdall: ;)|pg|| nt|athene: if west did have the @DK he would surely play a heart here|pg|| nt|athene: rather than lead this|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Robson questioning how do they lead and signalling on AK leads, A attitude K count|pg|| nt|athene: maybe robson is a bit worried that east actually has a void in diamonds|pg|| nt|jesperdall: No, that makes no sense in terms of distribution|pg|| nt|athene: or it is possible that west has @DKxx but is trying to give east a diamond ruff anyway?|pg|| nt|djneill: it's just a question of disaster or calamity|pg|| nt|djneill: will most get to game you think E-W?|pg|| nt|athene: if your teammates are bringing home 420 then you really want -500 not -800; but if EW have nothing on, 800 is not much worse than 500 and you might as well try to make it|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Nope|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h6|pc|hJ|pc|s6|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s4|pg|| nt|jesperdall: The Great Finesser is not a friend of Robson at Facebook either - I just checked|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dT|pc|h2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d6|pc|s8|pc|d5|pg|| mc|8|nt|vugraphzcm: Robson complaining that was unlucky both Ks were offside|pg|| pg|| qx|c12|st||md|2SQJ76HQDQT96C9863,S832HAT2D2CAQT754,SAT95HK64DAJ754CJ,SK4HJ98753DK83CK2|sv|n|nt|ady: England move ahead|pg|| mb|1C|mb|1D!|nt|ahollan1: 1@C = 2+@C a) nat b) BAL v: 12-14 nv: 15-17|pg|| nt|ahollan1: 1@D = takeout of @C, 4+@D|pg|| nt|ahollan1: special defense against nebulous 1@C|pg|| mb|d|an|'|nt|ahollan1: DBL looks like 4+@H|pg|| mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|3D|nt|ady: +500 good result for Ireland OR England need to get to 4@H for a small loss|pg|| mb|3H|mb|4S|nt|ahollan1: i'm told newest CC says 1@D = was takeout with 3+@D [i'll correct my notes]|pg|| nt|ady: now Englnd need to find X|pg|| mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ady: Ireland lead after this hand|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|d2|pg|| nt|ady: 12 imps|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h6|mc|10|pg|| qx|o13|st||md|3SJ643HKDAJT84CT64,ST9HJT72DQ932CQ87,SK8752HAQ9653DKC9,SAQH84D765CAKJ532|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|nt|athene: some might open 1@S with north on the grounds that you can then bid your second suit without reversing|pg|| nt|athene: but i like 1@H|pg|| nt|athene: you have more hearts!|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: but forrester making a funny remark: "but you didn't finesse the K@S" :)|pg|| pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d2|pc|dK|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|cT|pc|h7|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Forrester not willing to make commitment in trumps yet|pg|| nt|athene: forrester is not sure how to play trumps|pg|| nt|athene: for example lead to king, lose to stiff ace - disaster!|pg|| nt|athene: lead to jack, lose to stiff queen - disaster!|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Just my point|pg|| nt|djneill: garvey didn't double, of course they are 2-2|pg|| nt|athene: the answer: don't lead them at all!|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c2|pc|d8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|h5|pc|c3|pc|s3|pc|hJ|pg|| nt|athene: there is a well-known Blue Team hand where Belladonna has to find the queen of trumps|pg|| nt|athene: so he ruffs things for an hour or so and then exits at trick 10 and is left with Axx facing KJ10 in trumps|pg|| nt|jesperdall: That would be impressive if Forrester manages to do just that on this hand...|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cJ|mc|10|nt|djneill: brd 11, South didn't redouble the 2nd double of 2@d, so West just passed it, down for 5 imps|pg|| pg|| qx|c13|st||md|3SJ643HKDAJT84CT64,ST9HJT72DQ932CQ87,SK8752HAQ9653DKC9,SAQH84D765CAKJ532|sv|b|mb|1H|mb|2C|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|s9|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c5|pc|s6|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o14|st||md|4ST84HQ84DKQJ42CJ9,SAHKJT932D97653C7,S9753HA5DACQT8642,SKQJ62H76DT8CAK53|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D!|an|!H|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Great when a power RDBL lets YOU off the hook ;)|pg|| mb|p|nt|djneill: 2@d is 9+ HCP, so West was in range|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Gutsy 3@c though, not entirely in range...|pg|| nt|athene: what is Carroll thinking about? debating between 3@d, 3@H and 4@H?|pg|| nt|djneill: garvey suddenly ran out of penalty doubles|pg|| nt|jesperdall: So DBL is take out by both hands|pg|| mb|p|pc|sK|nt|athene: i wouldn't double with the west hand even if it were takeout|pg|| nt|athene: pass is a bit surprising|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I would bid 3@h if non forcing|pg|| nt|jesperdall: 6-5 hands do not scream defend at the 3-level|pg|| nt|jesperdall: And 3@D sounds too strong in my book, not just competitive|pg|| nt|athene: i guess carroll felt that most of the time they have 4@H on, partner already raised|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Makes sense, but West's hand is unusual still|pg|| pc|sQ|nt|athene: yes, 4@H could make if east has diamond stuff, even if he only has 2 hearts|pg|| pc|s8|pc|h2|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|athene: or maybe even 1|pg|| nt|jesperdall: I think west smelled a misfit - good sniffing indeed|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: Forrester asking would Carroll's 3-bid be NF. answer was yes|pg|| pc|d3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|dT|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c14|st||md|4ST84HQ84DKQJ42CJ9,SAHKJT932D97653C7,S9753HA5DACQT8642,SKQJ62H76DT8CAK53|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N!|nt|eamongall: http://www.eurobridge.org/2014-election-results.aspx|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: 1N = forcing|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: Contract Bridge of Irelands main official got elected to EBL Executive (Paul Porteus) |pg|| pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|sA|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|d5|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s8|pc|d6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|d7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| mc|9|nt|ady: Ireland lead by 2 imps 2 hands to play|pg|| pg|| qx|o15|st||md|1SQT9HQT42DT32CQ83,SJ7HAJ953DAJ94CJ9,SK852HK7D876CAT42,SA643H86DKQ5CK765|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|nt|athene: eeek, english EW bid 5@H over 4@S in the other room on the 4@SX hand!|pg|| mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|an|alerted|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|athene: we need to designate one corner of the playing hall the Naughty Corner|pg|| nt|athene: if you bid at the 5-level and it is wrong you have to go and stand there between sets|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|jesperdall: Robson agrees - then he does not have to answer for his reckless 4@s bid!|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: because I was waiting for a vocal explanation and it didn't arrive :)|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dK|pg|| pc|h8|nt|jesperdall: Much better to scream at the your teammates: "you bid 5@H !??!"|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|djneill: good stop here|pg|| pc|h7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d2|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hK|pg|| pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|s5|pc|c6|pc|h2|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|c4|pc|s3|pc|c3|pg|| nt|Aurora: Thanks to all Commentators, operators and kibitzes. See you in 1hour for another session: http://livebridge.net/bbo/session.php?eventid=1024&sessionid=24|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s2|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|sJ|pc|s8|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s9|pc|h5|pc|sK|pc|s4|pg|| pc|cT|nt|vugraphzcm: thinking now|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Do not play low in 2nd hand, please|pg|| nt|djneill: there is nothing but thinking makes it so|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: 7@C in hand|pg|| pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pg|| qx|c15|st||md|1SQT9HQT42DT32CQ83,SJ7HAJ953DAJ94CJ9,SK852HK7D876CAT42,SA643H86DKQ5CK765|sv|n|nt|ady: sorry 5 imps|pg|| mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S!|mb|p|mb|2D!|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|ahollan1: 1@S = 0-4@S 1@H-1N would be 5+@S|pg|| mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|eamongall: http://www.eurobridge.org/repository/competitions/14Opatija/microsite/results.htm|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|eamongall: running scores |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 2@D limited by failure to use Gazzilli|pg|| nt|eamongall: 2nd last time I was talking to Gold he expressed dislike of Gazilli |pg|| nt|ady: thin raise to 3NT east can hardly have more than 12 pts |pg|| pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|sK|nt|ady: same bidding OR except 2NT passed out|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s7|pg|| pc|sT|pc|c9|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hK|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s6|pc|d3|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|h9|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h7|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ764HK6DQJ3CAT5,SATHQ832D98754C43,SK92HAJT974DA6CK6,S853H5DKT2CQJ9872|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|djneill: thanks everyone|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: thanks all last board of this set|pg|| mb|p|mb|2H|nt|vugraphzcm: great audience, and great match. last match is 18:10 CET, thnks roland|pg|| mb|p|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|nt|vugraphzcm: for pointing that out|pg|| nt|jesperdall: Robson: "Should I play 4@s or partner 4@h?"|pg|| mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cJ|nt|jesperdall: My goodness, what a partner!|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|h9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|hA|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|hQ|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sA|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pg|| nt|athene: nice from forrester getting west to ruff the club|pg|| mc|12|nt|athene: but maybe west should smell a rat - east would surely lead a diamond from AK?|pg|| nt|athene: so declarer can't really need a fast diamond pitch|pg|| nt|vugraphzcm: thanks all see you soon in 30 mins|pg|| pg|| qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ764HK6DQJ3CAT5,SATHQ832D98754C43,SK92HAJT974DA6CK6,S853H5DKT2CQJ9872|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|ady: last hand of the set thx operator Al Eamon and kibs|pg|| mb|3H|an|'|nt|vugraphzcn: next match 18:10 CET|pg|| mb|p|nt|ahollan1: Kristian did a wonderful job --- again|pg|| nt|eamongall: what is going wrong with Italy ... Is Sementa playing with 2 different partners |pg|| nt|ahollan1: 3@H = 6@H 3@S, INV [so good 14-16]|pg|| nt|ahollan1: Italy has 5 or 6 lineups arranged for this event|pg|| nt|ahollan1: or was it 6 or 7|pg|| mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|ahollan1: wihout bocchi-madala-duboin even more bizarre things happened|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cJ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|sT|nt|ahollan1: next round in about 35 minutes|pg|| pc|sK|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|d4|pc|h7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|11|nt|ahollan1: ireland still has a lot of work to get into top 6|pg|| nt|ady: Ireland win by 4 imps |pg|| nt|ady: thx all|pg|| nt|ady: bye|pg|| nt|eamongall: just win a few matches 16-4 would suffice |pg|| pg||