vg|BBO4-2nd Mind Sports Games,W-RR4,I,17,32,NETHERLANDS,0,ISRAEL,0| rs|1NW=,4SE-1,3CE-1,3CE=,4HWx+1,5CNx-1,4HW+1,4HW+1,4SE-1,3SE-1,2NN-1,3DN-2,4HW=,4HW=,2DE+2,3DE+1,4HS+1,4HS+1,2DN+2,3NS-3,3CS=,3HE-1,1SW+1,1SW+4,3DS+1,2SE=,3NN+3,6DS-1,3DW-2,1NS+1,1NN=,2HN=| pn|DEKKERS,TAL,MICHIELSEN,TAL,NOSATZKI,SIMONS,SAADA,PASMAN|pg|| qx|o17|st||md|3SK732HQJ9DQT864C7,SAQ65HAT5DAJ72CQ9,S9H8643D93CAKJT82,SJT84HK72DK5C6543|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|uni_dennis: good morning everyone|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|c9|pg|| pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 4@s has a chance here for EW|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|d6|nt|uni_dennis: and Pasman-Simons at the other table bid it after a 3@c opening by N|pg|| pc|h5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|h9|nt|uni_dennis: this 1N will make, no more tricks for the defense after the 6@c tricks|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: declarer will take a @s finesse for the rest|pg|| pc|d2|pg|| pc|c8|pc|h2|pc|hJ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c2|pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|d7|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dJ|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sQ|mc|7|pg|| qx|c17|st||md|3SK732HQJ9DQT864C7,SAQ65HAT5DAJ72CQ9,S9H8643D93CAKJT82,SJT84HK72DK5C6543|sv|o|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c4|pc|d4|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c6|pc|d6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pc|d8|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s2|pc|sQ|pc|s9|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|c2|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|c8|pc|s8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|c3|pc|hJ|pc|sA|pc|cA|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pg|| mc|9|pg|| qx|o18|st||md|4SQ863HAT95D8754C5,SKT72H7DAQ6C98432,SJ5HQ842DJ32CAKQ7,SA94HKJ63DKT9CJT6|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|nt|ianmcc: hi all not much in first 2|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: hi|pg|| mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ianmcc: hi dennis|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1N will be interesting on a @h lead|pg|| mb|3C|nt|uni_dennis: but i don't think the defense can take more than 3@h and 3@c|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: nowadays you can't end up in 2@c anymore, so if you want to play in @c need to go to 3-level|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|d5|nt|ianmcc: 1NT was enough|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: @s lead would have made life easier|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: for the declarer that is|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but now one off if the defense is passive, 3@c 1@h and 1@s to lose|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|d8|nt|uni_dennis: no need to do anything here, @d back is ok|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pg|| nt|ianmcc: right|pg|| pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|c5|pg|| nt|ianmcc: now North must go easy|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pc|d6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|c3|pc|h8|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cJ|pc|d7|pc|c8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h6|pc|hT|pc|s2|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: other room also bid 3@c. after 1@c-1@s//1NT you can expect E to hold 4@c most of the time if you play a natural system|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: only 3@c if 3433 then|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c18|st||md|4SQ863HAT95D8754C5,SKT72H7DAQ6C98432,SJ5HQ842DJ32CAKQ7,SA94HKJ63DKT9CJT6|sv|n|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d9|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cJ|pc|d5|pc|c8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|d3|pg|| pc|c9|pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s8|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sK|pc|hQ|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg|| pg|| qx|o19|st||md|1SAJ3H964D9765CT62,SK52HAK875DKTCJ74,SQT8HTDA2CAKQ9853,S9764HQJ32DQJ843C|sv|e|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 4@h here for EW|pg|| mb|1H|nt|uni_dennis: but NS have a very cheap save in 5@c|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 5@c only 1 off, and with @sK onside would even make|pg|| mb|3H|an|Asking for stopper|nt|uni_dennis: 3@h = long minor, asking for @h-stop|pg|| mb|4H|nt|uni_dennis: now Dekkers should know to bid 5m|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: expecting 7+ in a minor without much besides in N, so 4@h will make|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and 5m will be at most 3 off|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|uni_dennis: this surprises me|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: with 3 or 4 card support I think you shouldn't pass|pg|| nt|ianmcc: bad decisions - tho may not be easy to play|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and N won't have more than she has now, then she would start with DBL on 1@h|pg|| pc|h2|pc|cT|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s3|nt|uni_dennis: now draw trumps and claim|pg|| nt|ianmcc: 1d 10 first?|pg|| nt|ianmcc: @d|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: @sK then @hA and @hQ|pg|| pc|sK|nt|uni_dennis: then can cash @d10 and go back to dummy with 3rd @h|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s6|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: at the other table it was N who bid 5@c herself instead of DBL in the 2nd round|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: I like DBL by Michielsen, but Dekkers should have run here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pc|c3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: DBL by N was good, because S could hold short @c for example|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d2|pc|d4|pc|d6|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: then @cAK becomes defense, along with @dA and @sQTx 4@h will be off quickly|pg|| pc|h7|pc|c5|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c19|st||md|1SAJ3H964D9765CT62,SK52HAK875DKTCJ74,SQT8HTDA2CAKQ9853,S9764HQJ32DQJ843C|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|3H|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|5C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|sK|pc|s8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cA|pc|h2|pc|c2|pc|c4|pg|| pc|cK|pc|h3|pc|c6|pc|c7|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|d8|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|c9|pc|s4|pc|h6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d4|pc|h9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|c5|pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|hK|pg|| pc|c3|pc|s6|pc|d7|pc|hA|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o20|st||md|2SAT762H74DQ8CT765,S85HAQT5DAT74CKQ2,SKQJH9DKJ9652C943,S943HKJ8632D3CAJ8|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sT|pc|hQ|pc|sJ|pc|s9|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|c20|st||md|2SAT762H74DQ8CT765,S85HAQT5DAT74CKQ2,SKQJH9DKJ9652C943,S943HKJ8632D3CAJ8|sv|b|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s7|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s6|pc|s5|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s9|pc|s2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h9|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|mc|11|pg|| qx|o21|st||md|3SJ63HQT98DA72CA98,S8HA5DKJ54CKQT765,SQ9HK432DQT9CJ432,SAKT7542HJ76D863C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|nt|uni_dennis: NV - V this is a 4@s opening, so i agree with Tal here|pg|| pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: Pasman opened 3@s and got to play there|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|nt|uni_dennis: 1@s 1@h 2@d to lose it seems|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hA|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so 3@s opener a winner on this one|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c2|nt|uni_dennis: although 3@s going 1 off in the other room as well|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: if she runs this, will get trump back|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: then loses 2@h 1@s 1@c and 1@D|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|s8|nt|uni_dennis: but N will never duck @cA here|pg|| pc|h3|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|s4|pc|c8|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so took her ruffs|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|c6|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|d4|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h4|nt|uni_dennis: and needs both @d onside|pg|| pc|s5|pc|h8|pc|c7|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|cT|pc|dT|pc|s7|pg|| pc|cA|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|cJ|pg|| pg|| qx|c21|st||md|3SJ63HQT98DA72CA98,S8HA5DKJ54CKQT765,SQ9HK432DQT9CJ432,SAKT7542HJ76D863C|sv|n|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|s9|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c5|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|hA|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|hJ|pc|cA|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o22|st||md|4SJ865HJ52DJ3C9432,SKTHT98743DQTCKQ8,SQ2HKQ6DAK852CAT6,SA9743HAD9764CJ75|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|d|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: Michielsen thought she was too heavy for a 1NT-overcall of course|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but now needs to push a little|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: in the other room NS ended in 3@D after a 2@s (muiderberg) opening by East|pg|| pc|s3|pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|d2|nt|uni_dennis: 1@s 2@h 2@d 1@c to start with|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: trying for extra @d tricks|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but defense might come to 2@s 1@h 2@d and 2@c tricks first|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and declarer doesn't have her @h-tricks yet|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|s6|pg|| pc|cK|nt|uni_dennis: might go up with @cA here|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: hoping E has Jx|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c5|pc|c2|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but then W wouldn't lead @cK but small|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cT|pg|| mc|7|pg|| qx|c22|st||md|4SJ865HJ52DJ3C9432,SKTHT98743DQTCKQ8,SQ2HKQ6DAK852CAT6,SA9743HAD9764CJ75|sv|e|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|d|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d7|pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|hT|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dK|pg|| pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|d6|pc|h5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|c2|pc|h3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d5|pc|s3|pc|c4|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h6|pc|cJ|pc|hJ|pc|h8|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c8|pc|c6|pc|s7|pg|| pc|s8|pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|s9|pg|| pg|| qx|o23|st||md|1ST5H7642DK65CA976,SAQ2HAKQJTD8743CK,SK876H3DQ92CJ8542,SJ943H985DAJTCQT3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: East raising to 2@h here, Pasman bid 1@s first|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so W got to tell her hand for the defense|pg|| pc|c2|nt|uni_dennis: 1@h-2@h//4@h much harder to defend against|pg|| pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|nt|uni_dennis: 3rd and 5th leads by NS, switch is attitude|pg|| pc|sA|pc|s6|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c4|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: will draw trumps and give @sK|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|ianmcc: repeated forces might have been better|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: then she has 10 tricks|pg|| pc|s7|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sJ|pc|c6|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c7|pc|d3|pc|d2|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|d4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| nt|ianmcc: sorry - was asleep|pg|| pc|d6|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|c23|st||md|1ST5H7642DK65CA976,SAQ2HAKQJTD8743CK,SK876H3DQ92CJ8542,SJ943H985DAJTCQT3|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c4|pc|c3|pc|cA|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|c8|pc|h8|pc|h4|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|c5|pc|h9|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|h7|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg|| pc|d9|pc|dA|pc|d6|pc|d3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|c6|pc|d4|pc|c2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|s2|pc|s6|pg|| pc|s9|pc|c9|pc|d7|pc|s7|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|d5|pc|hT|pc|cJ|pc|cT|pg|| pg|| qx|o24|st||md|2S84H8742DA6CKJT52,SAQ65HQJ9D984C943,SKJT32HKT6DJCQ876,S97HA53DKQT7532CA|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: NS play 2@s opening as 5@s-4+minor, but Michielsen decided not to bid it|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: probably because of her good 3card in @h|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: NS can make a @c partial here|pg|| pc|s8|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but EW almost make 5@d and 3NT|pg|| pc|c6|pc|cA|nt|ianmcc: 2@d looks like an underbid. 5 had a chance|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 5@d a decent contract, just needing @s finesse (and no bad luck in @D)|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pg|| pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 3NT will often make, if the defense doesn't find the @c lead|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s9|pg|| pc|d8|pc|s3|pc|d2|pc|d6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|c5|pc|d9|pc|c7|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|d5|pc|cT|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|h7|pc|c4|pc|c8|pg|| pc|dT|pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|cQ|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c24|st||md|2S84H8742DA6CKJT52,SAQ65HQJ9D984C943,SKJT32HKT6DJCQ876,S97HA53DKQT7532CA|sv|o|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s3|pc|s7|pg|| pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c2|pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s9|pc|s4|pc|s5|pc|sT|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d2|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg|| pc|d3|pc|cT|pc|d9|pc|c6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|o25|st||md|3SJ3HKQJ8754D3CQ94,ST87H32DK87CKT832,SAQ52H6DAQJ654CAJ,SK964HAT9DT92C765|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: I'm sure not all tables will have played a @d partial on that one|pg|| mb|4H|nt|ianmcc: need to play 4@h|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: even 6@h has chances|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: but not good|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 4@h nice call|pg|| pc|s8|nt|ianmcc: yes all the eggs in the only basket|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sK|nt|uni_dennis: in their system she could have bid 3@h as well to show a good PRE in @h, but this is a bit too much for that|pg|| pc|s3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and 4@h shuts out the opps as well|pg|| nt|ianmcc: here it was important to shut out partner|pg|| nt|ianmcc: look like 11|pg|| pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|uni_dennis: some of the Dutch pairs play 1m-4M as something like this hand and 1m - 4@c/@d to show a better Major|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: like AKQxxxx(x) or a King besides|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| nt|ianmcc: can't see merit|pg|| pc|hJ|mc|11|pg|| qx|c25|st||md|3SJ3HKQJ8754D3CQ94,ST87H32DK87CKT832,SAQ52H6DAQJ654CAJ,SK964HAT9DT92C765|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|s8|pc|s2|pc|sK|pc|s3|pg|| pc|s4|pc|sJ|pc|sT|pc|s5|pg|| pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg|| pc|s6|pc|c4|pc|s7|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|h4|pc|d8|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|d4|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|c2|pc|d5|pc|hT|pg|| mc|11|pg|| qx|o26|st||md|4SJHAQ85DK74C97653,S532HK9643D53CQ82,SAKT86H72DAQT86CJ,SQ974HJTDJ92CAKT4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|nt|ianmcc: this one interesting - 5@d best|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|nt|ianmcc: maybe not quite there|pg|| pc|c3|pc|c8|pc|cJ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: S has quite a lot for a pass on 2@d, as 2@d can be up to 17 hcp even|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but with bad fit I agree with pass|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: N cannot have 15-17 with 5-5 by the way|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so if N has 15-17 she only has 4@d|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 3N played by S will make on a @h lead|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: maybe on every lead even|pg|| nt|ianmcc: not the least likely contract|pg|| pc|hJ|nt|uni_dennis: but even if S bids 2NT, would N raise to 3NT? or bid 3@D?|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s3|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h4|pc|h7|pg|| nt|ianmcc: can still make 11 unless West rises|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c2|nt|ianmcc: oh dear I see it's only 10|pg|| pc|d6|pg|| pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|d7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d2|pg|| pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dJ|pc|c6|pc|h6|pg|| mc|10|nt|uni_dennis: in Closed Room Nosatzki did indeed bid 2NT with S|pg|| nt|ianmcc: and?|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: N still thinking|pg|| pg|| qx|c26|st||md|4SJHAQ85DK74C97653,S532HK9643D53CQ82,SAKT86H72DAQT86CJ,SQ974HJTDJ92CAKT4|sv|b|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2D|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|d|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s2|pc|s6|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|hT|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|h7|pg|| pc|h9|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|h5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|d8|pc|cA|pc|c6|pg|| pc|cT|pc|c7|pc|h4|pc|dT|pg|| mc|6|pg|| qx|o27|st||md|1SKT83HKJTDACQJ963,SA9642HQ9DQT852CA,SQ7H64DK9643CKT84,SJ5HA87532DJ7C752|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1S|nt|uni_dennis: 1@c 2+|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 2@c generally shows 5+@c as 1@c can be 2+, but Michielsen has no real other option|pg|| nt|ianmcc: very restrained auction|pg|| nt|ianmcc: we haven't had much action|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: partscore battles here mostly|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but on other tables it will be game swings for sure|pg|| pc|d2|nt|uni_dennis: this is comfortable spot again|pg|| pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| nt|ianmcc: comfort seems to have been the object!|pg|| pc|s3|nt|uni_dennis: on bd 26 in closed room N bid 3@c over 2NT, so East could DBL, now 3N by S with @c lead|pg|| nt|ianmcc: gave away information|pg|| pc|s6|pc|sQ|pc|s5|pg|| pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: Pasman switched to a @h at trick 2, after @s finesse 3 off on bd 26|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg|| pc|s2|pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|s8|pg|| pc|d6|pc|h2|pc|c9|pc|d5|pg|| nt|ianmcc: trying to avoid a guess in @h|pg|| nt|siladen: a tight match until now :) |pg|| nt|siladen: good afternoon anw :)|pg|| pc|c6|pc|s4|pc|cT|pc|c2|pg|| nt|ianmcc: hi|pg|| pc|dK|pc|h5|pc|hT|pc|d8|pg|| pc|d9|pc|h7|pc|cJ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|sT|pc|s9|pc|cK|pc|h8|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h9|pg|| pc|c7|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h6|pg|| pg|| qx|c27|st||md|1SKT83HKJTDACQJ963,SA9642HQ9DQT852CA,SQ7H64DK9643CKT84,SJ5HA87532DJ7C752|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c5|pg|| pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg|| pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|c4|pc|c7|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|d7|pc|s3|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s8|pc|sA|pg|| pc|dT|pc|d4|pc|sJ|pc|hT|pg|| pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|h4|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|s2|pc|h6|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|o28|st||md|2SQ87HKT853D94CQ63,SA9532HQ62D73CAT7,SJTHAJ4DAT86CJ542,SK64H97DKQJ52CK98|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|nt|uni_dennis: looks like another partscore here|pg|| nt|ianmcc: @s partial E/W|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: EW can make some 2 or 3@s|pg|| mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s4|nt|uni_dennis: but stopped safe again and NS not bothered to come in |pg|| pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d4|pg|| pc|dQ|pc|d9|pc|d7|nt|uni_dennis: NS cannot even make 2@h, so right they are|pg|| pc|dA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h6|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: good switch this|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: now S can draw trump|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and cash 2 more @h for just +1|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|s3|pc|c5|pc|s6|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|d2|pc|h5|pc|h2|pg|| mc|8|pg|| qx|c28|st||md|2SQ87HKT853D94CQ63,SA9532HQ62D73CAT7,SJTHAJ4DAT86CJ542,SK64H97DKQJ52CK98|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg|| pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dK|pc|d9|pg|| pc|s4|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|sT|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|d8|pc|dQ|pc|s8|pc|s9|pg|| pc|s2|pc|sJ|pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|h3|pc|h2|pc|dT|pg|| pc|d5|pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg|| pc|h7|pc|h8|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pg|| pc|h4|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s3|pg|| pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|c9|pc|c3|pg|| pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s6|pc|hK|pc|s5|pc|hJ|pg|| pg|| qx|o29|st||md|3SQ632HAJ6DJ876CAQ,SJ7HQ3D952CKJ9642,S8HT972DAKQ43CT75,SAKT954HK854DTC83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|d|nt|uni_dennis: 3N interesting again|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: for NS|pg|| mb|2S|nt|uni_dennis: if S gets @sQ as a trick, and normally will, then just needs @cK to be onside|pg|| nt|ianmcc: finesses don't work today|pg|| mb|3D|nt|uni_dennis: kib pointing out double @h finesse an option as well|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|siladen: will end in 3@D I think|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|nt|siladen: and yes, there they go|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but settling for the part score again|pg|| pc|dA|pc|dT|pc|d6|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: what should S have bid over 2@s?|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: somehow 3@d doesn't feel right|pg|| pc|h2|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: now she's lucky in a way to find N with 5@d instead of 5@c|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: i was thinking of 2NT|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: then if N has a 5-card minor can bid it|pg|| nt|ianmcc: not lebensohl?|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: don't think this is Lebensohl opposite a passed hand though|pg|| pc|h3|pc|hT|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s5|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|c5|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|cK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h8|pc|hA|pc|c2|pc|h7|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: can get a @h ruff now, but doesn't hurt declarer|pg|| mc|10|pg|| qx|c29|st||md|3SQ632HAJ6DJ876CAQ,SJ7HQ3D952CKJ9642,S8HT972DAKQ43CT75,SAKT954HK854DTC83|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|dQ|pc|dT|pg|| pc|dK|pc|s4|pc|d7|pc|d5|pg|| pc|h5|pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg|| pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hK|pc|hA|pg|| pc|dJ|pc|d9|pc|d3|pc|s5|pg|| pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg|| pc|cQ|pc|cK|pc|c7|pc|c3|pg|| pc|s7|pc|s8|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg|| pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|sJ|pc|h7|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|h8|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d8|pc|c4|pc|dA|pc|s9|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s6|pc|c6|pc|d4|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|c9|pc|hT|pg|| pg|| qx|o30|st||md|4SKQ9HA54DAKQJ654C,SJ7HJT9732D7CKJT8,S852HQ6D82CAQ7432,SAT643HK8DT93C965|sv|o|mb|p|nt|ianmcc: a game at last|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: this looks like a game hand finally|pg|| mb|2D|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 2@d Multi|pg|| mb|2H|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: weak with 6@h/@s or strong NT or strong with @d|pg|| mb|3D|nt|uni_dennis: 3@d = strong 1-suiter @d|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 5@d not an easy make|pg|| mb|3H|mb|p|nt|ianmcc: 3NT best|pg|| mb|3S|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: will bid 3NT now|pg|| mb|3N|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: right sided it as well now|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: though W doesn't have an entry to her @hs|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: this time|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: not sure what their agreements are on 3@h|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: but not natural for sure|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: there is a case to play 3@h as waiting and 3@s = 5+@s and 3NT = 5+@h over 3@D|pg|| nt|ianmcc: must make|pg|| pc|hK|nt|ianmcc: Netherlands have made up good ground after early disaster|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: then click on a group to see running scores|pg|| pc|hA|nt|uni_dennis: 11 tricks now|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h6|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s5|pc|sA|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and israel still bidding at the other table|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 6@d now!|pg|| nt|ianmcc: double|pg|| pc|c9|nt|uni_dennis: no DBL, but will be down, as EW have pointed out @h lead|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: and there is trick 12|pg|| mc|12|nt|uni_dennis: on this table|pg|| pg|| qx|c30|st||md|4SKQ9HA54DAKQJ654C,SJ7HJT9732D7CKJT8,S852HQ6D82CAQ7432,SAT643HK8DT93C965|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|o31|st||md|1ST952HA852DK43C83,SK8HT3DQJ76CKJ962,SQJ4HK97D852CAQT7,SA763HQJ64DAT9C54|sv|n|nt|ianmcc: I was doubling|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: hmm.. @s lead against 6@d, but still no way to get rid of @dh loser|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: @h loser|pg|| mb|1C|mb|d|nt|uni_dennis: and back to a partial again|pg|| mb|1H|nt|uni_dennis: S might bid 1@s first, then 2@h if EW bid 1NT or 2@d|pg|| mb|2C|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: but normal approach is to bid @hs first of course|pg|| mb|2S|mb|p|mb|3D|nt|ianmcc: heading for trouble|pg|| mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: 2@c natural or just a good hand? with @d it was|pg|| mb|p|mb|p|pc|h7|pc|h4|nt|uni_dennis: this will be 1 or 2 off|pg|| nt|ianmcc: certainly the best place for E/W|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 1NT better|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h3|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: 3rd and 5th leads|pg|| nt|ianmcc: well - past 1NT|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: so @h 7 could be 73 as well|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: but not when W played the 3|pg|| pc|sT|pc|sK|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d6|pc|d2|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg|| pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sQ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s8|pg|| pc|h6|pc|h2|pc|hT|pc|hK|pg|| pc|sJ|pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|d7|pg|| pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg|| pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|dQ|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|h5|pc|c2|pc|h9|pg|| pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|c6|pc|d8|pg|| pc|c7|pc|dT|pc|s9|pc|cJ|pg|| pc|s7|pc|d4|pc|dJ|pc|cQ|pg|| pg|| qx|c31|st||md|1ST952HA852DK43C83,SK8HT3DQJ76CKJ962,SQJ4HK97D852CAQT7,SA763HQJ64DAT9C54|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pg|| qx|o32|st||md|2ST7HJ973DQ94CQ852,SA964HT62D876CT97,SJ32HAKQ54DAJCJ64,SKQ85H8DKT532CAK3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|uni_dennis: NS missing their @h fit after 1NT opening here|pg|| mb|p|pc|d2|nt|uni_dennis: but it's a matter of agreement whether to open 1NT with 5card Major|pg|| pc|d4|nt|uni_dennis: and 1N also makes|pg|| pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: on this lead|pg|| nt|ianmcc: E/W have missed a @s fit|pg|| mc|7|nt|uni_dennis: yes, EW can make 2@s at least|pg|| nt|uni_dennis: results: http://www.worldbridge.org/tourn/Lille.12/microSite/Results.htm|pg|| pg|| qx|c32|st||md|2ST7HJ973DQ94CQ852,SA964HT62D876CT97,SJ32HAKQ54DAJCJ64,SKQ85H8DKT532CAK3|sv|e|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|c4|pg|| pc|sK|pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg|| pc|s5|pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg|| pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg|| pc|hA|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg|| pc|hK|pc|d3|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg|| pc|hQ|pc|d5|pc|h9|pc|hT|pg|| pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|c5|pc|c9|pg|| pc|dK|pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|dJ|pg|| mc|8|pg||