vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams 32 _,2_2,I,15,28,Irens,28,Vito,29|
rs|5SNx=,5DW=,3NN-1,3NS=,1NN+1,2HN+1,3NE+2,6CW-1,1NS=,1NW+1,4HN-1,4HN-1,3NN+1,3NS=,6HW=,6HE=,4SEx=,5HS=,3NS-1,1NS+1,3NS=,3NS=,4HN=,3HN=,4SS=,3SS=,4SWx=,4SW=|
pn|BAKHSHI,KARAIVANOV,TOWNSEND,RUSEV,Skorchev,Groetheim,Popov,Tundal|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|mb|p|nt|blum1956: hi all|pg||
mb|2H|nt|glen: Good morning all|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Hi|pg||
nt|glen: Hi Michael, Bill :)|pg||
nt|glen: we have all the time zones covered |pg||
mb|4S|nt|glen: its 6:30am here|pg||
nt|blum1956: 14-30 with me|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: welcome all and enjoy. @H :)|pg||
nt|blum1956: Probably Rusev should believe North and look for partner's minor suit|pg||
nt|blum1956: 2@h being a 2-suiter|pg||
mb|5H|nt|glen: W played with Trendafilov in the 2009 Bermuda Bowl, so Rusev is a new trend|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Welcome to Ben Green|pg||
nt|glen: hi Ben :)|pg||
nt|benjy:  Good morning|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|blum1956: hi Ben|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: 5-5 decision, is it right|pg||
nt|benjy:  Great decision by Bakhshi|pg||
pc|h4|nt|glen: 5 over 5 ...|pg||
nt|blum1956: East will be disappointed by the result|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|pc|h2|pg||
nt|benjy:  if i were east i would be trying to play in pd's minor|pg||
nt|blum1956: me too|pg||
nt|glen: closed room already has their result in|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h5|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hQ|pc|s3|pc|h6|pg||
nt|glen: and a big swing here|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bjacobs: Hard to blame East - he found the winning decision not to double 4@S|pg||
pc|cT|pc|sT|nt|blum1956: yes|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s5|nt|bjacobs: I think Bakhshi's decision was just too good|pg||
nt|benjy:  would you guys all bid with the south hand?|pg||
mc|11|nt|bjacobs: doubt it|pg||
nt|blum1956: I would not|pg||
nt|glen: i would not, so I would not be +850|pg||
nt|blum1956: But of course I would raise to 5@s with North's hand|pg||
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qx|c15|st||md|1S53HA8D985CQJ8742,SHJT965DKQ632CKT6,SAQJT87642HK72DTC,SK9HQ43DAJ74CA953|sv|n|nt|tsadek: ok Tokay here|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: complete Lavazza team is:Norberto BOCCHI, Giorgio DUBOIN, Agustin MADALA, Antonio SEMENTA, Mustafa Cem TOKAY, Jon BALDURSSON|pg||
mb|1H|mb|4S|nt|jfaria:  hi all|pg||
mb|d|nt|Walddk2: Easy grand slam?|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk2: To to make at least|pg||
nt|jfaria:  a very close match, 1 imp diference|pg||
nt|galadriel: Hello everyone|pg||
mb|5D|nt|tsadek: west need fit +K@C then he ask for aces|pg||
nt|pelu: here I prefer "Nt as transfer to @D (and 2@S for @C)|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: expect 2NT to be @D transfer, and 3@C = likes @Ds|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: so 3@H = singleton|pg||
nt|pelu: diff when u have 2 singletons :)|pg||
nt|rado: hi all:)|pg||
nt|rado: @D lead and @S underlead Ak will beat it but unlikely|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  just in time for an exciting board :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: Well, 5@S will make|pg||
nt|jfaria:  who could bid it?|pg||
pc|sA|nt|galadriel: Do you think North should bid one more? Or is he worried to push them into makingslam?|pg||
pc|s9|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
pc|s3|pc|d2|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|d3|nt|pelu: NL in 7@d in CR|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dJ|pc|d9|pg||
nt|galadriel: From is point of view, 6 of minor could be on|pg||
pc|d4|nt|galadriel: his|pg||
nt|jfaria:  think the light opening by W succeeded|pg||
pc|d5|nt|glen: what was that about fines for slow play, how about fines for slow bidding?|pg||
nt|tsadek: I like Verhees bid of 3@S in closed room , Force his pd to bid 4@C with K@C|pg||
nt|pelu: not easy when two players from so dif nations and diff style play together|pg||
pc|dK|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d6|nt|pelu: 5@H ask for @DQ - better 5Nt ask for @C-cue|pg||
pc|s4|pc|dA|pc|d8|pg||
nt|tsadek: 5NT here will beter than 5@H to know k@C|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hA|nt|Walddk1: Hello Rado and Martin|pg||
nt|fabsayc: hi Rado, spectators|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h2|pg||
mc|11|nt|rado: hello:)|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: There's certainly an argument for pushing on to 5@S solo as North|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d6|nt|bjacobs: In a way, it would have been better for East to "misjudge" and double 4@S for penalty, if partner will rip it|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Then N/S would find it much tougher to compete to 5@S|pg||
pc|d4|nt|glen: the only twist to that natural auction was N rebid 1NT, not 1@S with a 4-3-3-3|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
nt|blum1956: 26 points but a poor contract|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Good start by Townsend, killing the diamond suit|pg||
nt|blum1956: anyway easily making when knowing all 4 hands|pg||
nt|benjy:  any ideas on the correct line?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: wait for West to make a play first|pg||
nt|benjy:  win the diamond return and take a spade hook?|pg||
pc|d7|nt|blum1956: the hand is selfplaying probably|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d2|pc|dA|pg||
nt|glen: one approach is to lead towards the black QJx's|pg||
nt|bjacobs: In isolation, that is surely the right way to play QJx opposite Axxxx|pg||
nt|benjy:  Declarer may suspect the @D suit is 6-2 from the hesitation to continue|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|sA|nt|benjy:  if @D are 5-3 then leading towards both QJx will surely lead to deafeat|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|bjacobs: that's why I suggested "in isolation"|pg||
nt|blum1956: he better had ducked the @sK|pg||
nt|glen: yes, i'm surprised how fast he took it|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h5|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Well, he didn't want to lose a trick and allow the third diamond to be played|pg||
nt|bjacobs: pretty complicated hand|pg||
nt|benjy:  if he ducks a @H now then i don't think he can go down|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I think he'll more likely return to a black suit play|pg||
pc|h6|nt|blum1956: he still is not sure diamonds are 6-2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|bjacobs: Karanaivanov trying to temp declarer into a cover ... nice play|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hA|pg||
nt|blum1956: very clever play|pg||
pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|s7|pc|s4|pg||
nt|blum1956: now there is only 8 tricks|pg||
nt|bjacobs: well, Townsend played it well, but West's play was just too good.  We've seen a couple of brilliant efforts in the first two hands|pg||
nt|blum1956: perfect defense by the Bulgarians|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hT|pc|h8|pc|d3|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|s2|pg||
pc|h3|pc|s5|pc|c3|pc|h9|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c2|pc|c6|pc|c4|pg||
mc|8|nt|benjy:  I'm not sure it was ever right to cover the @H if the contract was making was it?|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SQJ2HQ976DA4CA875,SKT7HJT53DT7CKT92,SA854HK84DK95CQJ6,S963HA2DQJ8632C43|sv|e|nt|fabsayc: lucky not to be doubled|pg||
nt|jfaria:  obviously N was afraid of doing something weird|pg||
nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|rado: again some action with all hands non-balanced|pg||
nt|rado: N may bid @C 1st hoping to introduce @S later by DBL , or direct start with DBL|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Hi all|pg||
nt|galadriel: They will get to 3NT here|pg||
nt|galadriel: which is a tricky contract|pg||
nt|galadriel: plenty of HCP but no real source of tricks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  y, trick power in every suit|pg||
nt|jfaria:  probably will get a favourable lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rado: hi|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|c4|nt|glen: some partnerships have given up game invites on the N type hands, just blast 4@S and hope the unknown nature of the hand can help|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|glen: here the 3@h and then 4@S indicates a stonger idea|pg||
nt|jfaria:  big swing first board|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|nt|glen: but hard for N to find the perfect cards in the S hand for slam|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sK|pg||
nt|glen: greco-hampson (in another match) reached 3@S|pg||
nt|galadriel: They got X'd in 5@S in other room for 850|pg||
nt|jfaria:  double game swing outch!|pg||
nt|galadriel: Interestingly, it was South who competed to 5@S|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Both pairs play Precision. I think I can find EW's CC, one moment|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s5|pc|s6|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|glen: and their opps did likewise|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
nt|alok_daga: the last hand,a pretty hand 2 defeat 5hrts,wud require gud defence|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg||
pc|dT|nt|jfaria:  with a @d lead things would have been harder|pg||
nt|galadriel: Irens is a Norwegian/English combo|pg||
nt|galadriel: Vito all Bulgarian|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s7|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|pelu: I am not impressed :)|pg||
nt|tsadek: noe either @H 3-3 or A@D with 4@H|pg||
pc|s8|pc|d3|pc|h6|pc|d7|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|pelu: or @C 10 by East|pg||
pc|d6|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|mc|11|pg||
qx|o17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|nt|benjy:  if the @H suit was 3-3 then could you ever get to 9 tricks?|pg||
mb|1H|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: you are being harsh ... the @HK play guaranteed 2 tricks in the suit if that jack was originally doubleton|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: it's still not clear to me why declarer was making if he had ducked the 2nd heart|pg||
nt|blum1956: 3 spades and 2 tricks in each other suit|pg||
nt|glen: what do you lead from E hand on this bidding?|pg||
nt|benjy:  Q@S|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pg||
nt|glen: ah, i thought @C jack was an option|pg||
nt|bjacobs: right but back on the other hand, you still have to exit twice to West, who can set up 2 heart tricks and one of each|pg||
nt|blum1956: This is my choice as well (@cJ)|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hQ|pc|h6|nt|glen: now will they switch to @Ds |pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|d2|pg||
pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|hK|pc|s6|pc|s2|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d3|pg||
pc|h5|pc|d4|pc|s5|mc|8|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3S9752H96D97CA8632,S3HJT7DKQT63CQ954,SKT4HAK8532DA52CK,SAQJ86HQ4DJ84CJT7|sv|o|mb|1C|mb|1H|nt|galadriel: was that really 11 tricks?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  impossible|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rado: disciplinned pass by S non vuln vs Vuln|pg||
nt|jfaria:  only in another movie :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: I thought it was 9 only|pg||
mb|2H|mb|p|nt|alok_daga: Qx,Qx,hardly an opening hand,M also 2 2|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Michal, you sure?|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: here NL had 5½ bidding-round to find 4@S with 6@s almost cold|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Only 1 IMP in it, but that could be important with the scoreline this close|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Corrected now|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: sry bad claim|pg||
nt|Walddk5: np|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|glen: in the other room EW made six bids without @S, but then accidently bid the suit to play there|pg||
nt|rado: we've seen many wild openings those days:)|pg||
pc|c2|nt|glen: the 4@S bid here will be enough to get to slam now|pg||
nt|glen: even though EW are just temporary italians, they will use roman keycard blackwood|pg||
nt|pelu: for sure ita not easy to find out that the hands fit so well|pg||
nt|glen: Q. what is 2NT, A. unknown to us, but likely forcing game try, that in this case is a slam try|pg||
pc|c5|nt|tsadek: 2NT want to know 2@S with 3card or 4card|pg||
nt|pelu: 2NT could be invit+|pg||
nt|tsadek: 4@S max 4card @S|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|alok_daga: True,Rado,the openings r getting wilder by the day|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thanks :)|pg||
nt|jfaria:  "wrong sided" in open got a @d lead|pg||
pc|d2|nt|glen: wow|pg||
nt|pelu: if so, then 4@s stronger than 3@s|pg||
nt|glen: or in this case, reverse wow|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the funny thing is the light to wild openings don't seem to ever work, one wonders the attraction|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Query,wud u sell 2 a 2dmnds or xle from Easts hand?P marked with strength|pg||
nt|rado: Declarer mau like @c continuation|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
nt|fabsayc: east does not have a second bid|pg||
nt|rado: 3 rounds of @C now|pg||
pc|s3|nt|pelu: its difficult - I dont expect many tables will bid this slam|pg||
pc|sT|nt|jfaria:  E and N bidding @h first meaning @s |pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|galadriel: West would be ruffing with his natural trump trick|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|d3|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|h7|pc|sK|pg||
nt|alok_daga: If u follow Mike Lawrence he shud be competing!|pg||
nt|galadriel: last trick for the defence|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|jfaria:  1 imp back|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h4|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|nt|pelu: so far 2 out of 6 in slam|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|h9|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cQ|pc|h2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hQ|pc|c6|pc|hT|pg||
mc|9|nt|glen: and some not even in @S|pg||
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qx|o18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1C|an| |mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|glen: E needs a bid that says Meckwell would have opened this|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: so 21 opposite 11 reaches 3NT|pg||
pc|s9|nt|glen: the question of slam is where is the @D Q|pg||
nt|blum1956: East chose 1NT rather than 2NT, this decision preventing his side from bidding of the 6@c contract which fails as the diamond finesse does not work|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|c5|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c9|pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cT|pc|cA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dQ|pg||
nt|glen: in these short matches, having a finesse work or not can decide a match, essentially the luck part of the game|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c18|st||md|4SJ983HAT82D962C85,SKQHK96DAKT8CKQJ3,ST654HJ75DQ74CT92,SA72HQ43DJ53CA764|sv|n|mb|1D|an|.|mb|p|mb|1H|an|.|nt|alok_daga: Shud be dead push,this brd|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|an|.|nt|pelu: Denmark and Hungary (against Monaco) bid 6@s|pg||
nt|glen: how good was the 6@H contract?|pg||
nt|glen: with @D KT doubleton, was nice layout|pg||
nt|rado: now some quiet board 4@S for just|pg||
mb|p|nt|tsadek: 6@H will be great from N side|pg||
mb|2C|an|.|mb|p|mb|2S|an|.|nt|galadriel: This may not be everyone's opening|pg||
nt|jfaria:  6 on a finesse?|pg||
nt|galadriel: And will probably get them to slam|pg||
nt|jfaria:  well EW got kucky with a light opening first board|pg||
nt|galadriel: My view is that, if it is your partnership style to open these hands, that's fine, but the system must have good brakes|pg||
nt|jfaria:  hard to stY OU NOW, WITH W HAND|pg||
nt|jfaria:  sry capps|pg||
mb|p|mb|2N|an|.|nt|rado: :)|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|an|.|nt|jfaria:  nebulous @d opening in precision|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  all this must be scientific and of c forcing|pg||
nt|galadriel: I guess 2@C is GF|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|Walddk5: 1@H is 4+ spades or a GF relay|pg||
mb|6C|nt|Walddk1: 2 segments of 14 boards in the R32, R16, QF and SF. 3 x 16 in the finals on Wednesday|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|Walddk5: 1NT  11-13|pg||
nt|galadriel: 1@H is nat or GF, I'm told|pg||
mb|p|nt|Walddk5: No, 4+ spades or GF relay|pg||
nt|Walddk5: http://www.ecatsbridge.com/documents/files/ConventionCards/2009BermudaBowlBrazil/bermudabowl/norway/groetheim-tundal.pdf|pg||
nt|jfaria:  only @d lead will cooperate with EW goal|pg||
nt|galadriel: I somehow don't think that will happen...|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|nt|jfaria:  good thing 4 N nerves, he must stil be depressed by B15|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c2|nt|rado: Defense should continue @H to stop overtrick now|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c8|pg||
nt|jfaria:  can see nothing besides @d hook|pg||
nt|galadriel: Nor can I|pg||
pc|dA|nt|Walddk5: I see 11 IMPs to Bulgaria|pg||
pc|d4|nt|jfaria:  but W will try to get as much count as he can|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d6|pc|d8|pc|dQ|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1D|an| |mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: I hope everyone is ok with that 1@S bid|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Because if you're not, I'm going to have to argue it strongly :0|pg||
nt|glen: 1@D is precision like, E could have bid 1NT but is vulnerable opposite limited partner|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|glen: i'm okay with 1@S, but many would not be|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
nt|benjy:  Not bidding 1@S is abnormal in my view|pg||
nt|bjacobs: ah, very strong commentators today :)|pg||
nt|glen: nowadays that hand is becoming an opening bid for some pairs|pg||
pc|h7|nt|benjy:  It's so much safer bidding 1@S than dipping your toe in at the 2 level when the opponents have stopped bidding|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c4|pc|cA|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|benjy:  I wouldn't open it though!|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s6|pc|c9|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|benjy:  well maybe in 3rd pos :)|pg||
nt|blum1956: If North had the @dKQ less the 1@s bid could also be made |pg||
pc|d3|pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d2|pg||
nt|glen: you will, just wait other ten years for the point count requirement to drop one more point|pg||
nt|glen: *another|pg||
nt|benjy:  Could do but not by Townsend, he is conservative in that area|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|d5|nt|bjacobs: You'd overcall on K10xxx-109x-xxx-Qx Michael?|pg||
pc|d4|pg||
pc|d9|pc|s4|pc|d8|pc|dA|pg||
nt|benjy:  I would on KQ10xx 109x xxx xx but on the example you gave|pg||
nt|blum1956: Green vs red, 3rd in hand and after artificial opening - yes|pg||
nt|bjacobs: OK ... with partner a passed hand, he won't hang you|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I wouldn't dream of it if partner was still "live"|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s7|pc|cT|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h3|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|s5|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SAHK865DJ8653CJ43,SQ32HJ72DA74CAK82,SKT876HT93DKQ9CQ6,SJ954HAQ4DT2CT975|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: back to the slam in bopard 23 : 10 out of 26 in 6@S - more than I expected|pg||
mb|p|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|jfaria:  EW got nt first in our room|pg||
pc|s7|pc|s4|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|glen: some how a partscore got in here, will call the TD|pg||
nt|jfaria:  sometime NS will find @d|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now?|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d4|nt|alok_daga: gud xle|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|glen: in the other room E led a trump|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|glen: assuming the JT98 lead would not hurt, and could stop a @C ruff|pg||
nt|glen: here E switches to that horse at trick two|pg||
nt|jfaria:  S lost an entry, but still in the run|pg||
nt|galadriel: For anyone unfamiliar with VG on BBO, if you put your cursor over result from open room, you can see the bidding thee|pg||
nt|galadriel: there|pg||
pc|s6|nt|galadriel: Also, if you click on movie you can see all the results of the match - click on open room|pg||
nt|jfaria:  except if are wearing a Mac with no Bo software as i'm doing :)|pg||
pc|s5|nt|glen: if NS had enough communication after drawing trumps, could bring in @Ds for no losers|pg||
nt|galadriel: for running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|jfaria:  BBO software, i mean|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables - http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
pc|d8|nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
nt|jfaria:  well Popov decided to go on on @s, not a good try|pg||
pc|cA|nt|alok_daga: Mansfield proved right yet again,5level belongs 2 opponent.5hrts=1dwn thus this 300 the best they cud do|pg||
nt|alok_daga: actually on cl Q lead 4hrts also dwn?|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c5|nt|pelu: diff - even with open cards - to find more that 7 tricks for N|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dA|pc|d9|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|glen: but here it looks like a @H, 3@C, @S and a @D for the defense|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|cK|pc|cQ|pg||
nt|jfaria:  J @c is only a iluson as an entry|pg||
pc|c2|pc|s8|pc|c9|nt|pelu: wd by East - if he dont ruff easy win|pg||
pc|c4|pg||
pc|c7|pc|h6|pc|c8|pc|hT|pg||
nt|pelu: but only what we could expect from 2 topteams|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|jfaria:  and Skorchev must be really unhappy with N defence|pg||
pc|dK|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
mc|8|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|glen: fun hand in that a transfer by S gets N in 4@H, and a @C lead gets a ruff|pg||
nt|blum1956: The 4@h may be wrongsided here|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So don't transfer|pg||
mb|2D|an| |mb|p|mb|2H|nt|bjacobs: In my opinion, you do need a way to declare with that South hand, where there is no side suit that is worth protecting from the lead|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|an|6+!H|nt|bjacobs: I personally use Stayman then 4-major to achieve this|pg||
mb|p|nt|blum1956: Still there is a chance to stop in 3NT|pg||
nt|glen: i play 1NT-4@H as natural, but that is so retro|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It might be retro, but it's a winning approach|pg||
nt|benjy:  i play 4@S as nat but not 4@H :)|pg||
nt|glen: (4@C and 4@D are major suit transfers, gerber is for babies)|pg||
nt|blum1956: North may get this right|pg||
nt|blum1956: Knowing the @s shortness|pg||
mb|3N!|an|A!S ?|nt|bjacobs: He might, but then, South might overrule?|pg||
nt|glen: 3NT alerted may be asking|pg||
mb|p|mb|4C|nt|benjy:  For the record i don't play Gerber, 4@C is both M for me Glen!|pg||
mb|d|nt|glen: thanks operator for the explains|pg||
nt|blum1956: If alerted than it is bad for NS|pg||
nt|glen: oh no, now W can even double for @Cs|pg||
mb|4D|nt|bjacobs: whatever folks ... but the point is, you should have the option, one way or another, of being declarer in 4M when partner opens 1NT|pg||
mb|d|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: And N/S are doomed|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|benjy:  would you guys splinter on the south hand? It needs a close to perfecto for slam to be making|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|nt|blum1956: I play 1NT - 4@c(4@d) big transfer, 1NT - 4@h(4@s) natural|pg||
pc|h5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|h7|nt|bjacobs: The splinter does seem pushy|pg||
nt|benjy:  too pushy for me|pg||
nt|glen: 3@S may have not been a splinter, it might have been a game force with 6+@HS, not  showing anything or not in @Ss|pg||
nt|benjy:  in which case that is even more pushy|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Jeff Rubens has a wonderful method for deciding whether to try for slam with that sort of hand|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He says this:|pg||
nt|blum1956: yes - it was just my guess that 3@s had been a splinter|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Construct a perfect MINIMUM for partner where slam is laydown ... if you can, then make a slam TRY|pg||
nt|benjy:  :) I like that a lot|pg||
nt|blum1956: me too|pg||
nt|bjacobs: So go to it folks ... can you construct the perfect minimum for North that makes 6@H a laydown?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h2|nt|benjy:  on 18 the Norweigans bid the slam that went off when the @DQ was offside so 11 mre to Vito|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Axxx-Axx-Kxxx-Ax?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|hA|pc|d9|pg||
nt|blum1956: that's easy - several hands with the @cA doubleton|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d4|pc|d7|pc|d2|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|bjacobs: So perhaps South's evaluation was ok.  The mis-siding was the real killer|pg||
pc|dT|pc|hQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|d3|pc|d5|nt|benjy:  well you can't make a try and rightside can you?|pg||
pc|dJ|pg||
pc|h9|nt|bjacobs: I can't|pg||
pc|d8|nt|blum1956: me not|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s8|pg||
pc|h8|pc|s2|nt|bjacobs: bad luck then :)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|s3|pc|d6|nt|bjacobs: difficult game, this bridge|pg||
nt|benjy:  It's pretty unusual to be worried about going down in game whilst making a slam try|pg||
nt|bjacobs: funny, for sure|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c20|st||md|2S5HKQT9842DQ7CK74,SK732H6D832CAQ863,SAJ64HAJ3DA65CJ95,SQT98H75DKJT94CT2|sv|b|nt|rado: but hard to pass with W hand and non vuln vs red|pg||
nt|galadriel: INT making in both rooms - nice teamwork|pg||
nt|jfaria:  lol|pg||
mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  the only , i guess|pg||
mb|2D|an|.|mb|p|mb|2H|an|.|nt|galadriel: A @C lead will scupper this contract|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|an|.|mb|p|mb|4D|an|.|nt|glen: TD has corrected problem, now back to games and slams|pg||
nt|alok_daga: true.on club Q lead will have 2 play hrt 2 ACE,DMND FINNESEE 2 MAKE THE CONTRACT|pg||
mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cT|nt|jfaria:  a mild slam try by S but that's it|pg||
nt|jfaria:  killing lead|pg||
pc|c4|nt|pelu: the slam in 24 (6@h) bid by 11 out of 26|pg||
nt|rado: declarer will need Opps to touch @D suit to make this otherwise down 1|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|pelu: high standard here in the A-swiss|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|jfaria:  as Anne pointed out|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c9|nt|glen: Q. more information.  A. tournament site: http://www.poznan2011.pl/  bbo archives: http://www.bridgebase.com/vugraph_archives/vugraph_archives.php|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/osw2t1-1.htm|pg||
nt|glen: (the last link just above is the running scores)|pg||
nt|glen: note the seniors just have walking scores|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cJ|nt|pelu: now u owe me a drink, Glen :)|pg||
nt|galadriel: So, Tundal will get his ruff and must score a @D trick to st it|pg||
pc|h5|pc|cK|pg||
nt|galadriel: set|pg||
pc|h7|nt|galadriel: 8 boards to play, and nothing in it - very exciting!|pg||
pc|hT|nt|pelu: or 2 :)|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s9|pc|hQ|pc|s2|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Reqd passive defence|pg||
pc|h2|pc|c3|pc|hA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sT|pc|h9|nt|glen: i understand there is a beer garden and grill just outside the playing site, meet me there just as soon as I get a flight|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
pc|hK|pc|d2|pc|hJ|pc|d9|pg||
pc|h4|pc|d3|mc|9|pg||
qx|o21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|3N|nt|benjy:  the hands you guys both quoted if opener had Axx in @Cs he would still drive to slam and it would be practically no play|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  so i still stand by my comment that it was pushy|pg||
nt|bjacobs: absolutely|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bjacobs: North is devastated by that lead|pg||
nt|benjy:  I agree with the 1NT opener, what's your view guys?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: The other black suit would have been more of a concern!|pg||
nt|bjacobs: It's acceptable|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h6|pc|c4|pg||
nt|bjacobs: One way to decide is: how comfortable is your rebid after 1@C - 1@S ?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: If you are uncomfortable (and you may well be), then avoid the problem with a 1NT opening|pg||
nt|benjy:  but after 1@C p 1@D they would struggle to make game|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|hA|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, they preempted West|pg||
nt|bjacobs: 1@C - 1@D, 1@S overcall is devastating|pg||
nt|benjy:  Some might also argue that after 1NT 3NT with such a poor hand, east should try and find his partner's possible trick source|pg||
nt|blum1956: 1 have the 2@c alternative to 1NT and will probably prefer it (or not)|pg||
nt|bjacobs: A 2@C opening?|pg||
nt|blum1956: yes|pg||
nt|benjy:  yes 2@C is fine with me|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h8|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I guess we are more commentating on SAYC or 2/1|pg||
nt|blum1956: then 1NT is the best|pg||
mc|10|nt|benjy:  would you guys lead a major with the east cards?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: quite possibly, but then it would be hearts :(|pg||
nt|blum1956: At least it is better than 1@c|pg||
nt|bjacobs: I'd probably lead a club though - very little imagination|pg||
nt|benjy:  i think it's close|pg||
nt|bjacobs: These hands are extremely interesting|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: we wait for S...|pg||
nt|blum1956: Any lead except the diamond one looks sensible|pg||
pg||
qx|c21|st||md|3SQJ6HQ8DAQJ64CJ86,SAK984HT7643DT83C,S72HKJ9DK2CAK9743,ST53HA52D975CQT52|sv|n|mb|2C|an|Precision|nt|galadriel: precision style|pg||
nt|jfaria:  precision 2@c|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|mb|2S|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: 3NT can't make on a @S lead|pg||
nt|jfaria:  @s lead.. only count 8 tricks|pg||
nt|galadriel: But after 1NT- 3NT in other room, East led a natural @C|pg||
nt|jfaria:  my mac is rather slow today|pg||
nt|jfaria:  big swing|pg||
pc|h3|nt|galadriel: This auction gave West the chance to overcall @S|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ah!|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|pelu: only 3 top-losers in 4@s but not 10 tricks|pg||
nt|glen: E hunting for a number here|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h8|pg||
nt|galadriel: now it's ok|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|glen: if N can open that hand type in 3rd seat, S should not bid bidding 3@H on a 3-3-3-4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s2|pg||
nt|galadriel: I can understand West - he had a second 5 card major - may have been a surprise for declarer, who obviously had a @S stop|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h9|pc|h2|nt|rado: good stop by EW, 5@C needs @D finesse|pg||
nt|alok_daga: prediction.this brd will cost IMPS|pg||
nt|rado: yes N might open 4@S 3rd pos:)|pg||
nt|alok_daga: Y,7 411 MAY TEMPT HIM!|pg||
pc|hQ|pg||
nt|jfaria:  needed too much from p though ...|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
nt|galadriel: Agreed|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hT|pc|cA|nt|glen: the @D 2 in some partnerships would indicate some values in @Ds, not the switch from 7642|pg||
pc|c2|pg||
nt|galadriel: perhaps it ws|pg||
nt|galadriel: was|pg||
nt|jfaria:  easier 4 us anyway|pg||
pc|cK|nt|glen: i have no idea why the @D switch was tempting|pg||
pc|c5|nt|galadriel: At least it keeps the match close|pg||
pc|c8|pc|d8|pg||
pc|hK|nt|pelu: not the best defense - better @h 10 - 3x@h and a lot of @s-tricks for EW|pg||
pc|h5|pc|cJ|pc|h4|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d5|pc|d4|pc|d3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|dA|pc|dT|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|s4|pc|c3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|pelu: still 500|pg||
pc|s8|pc|c4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h6|pc|c7|nt|jfaria:  good 4 noncomitted kibs but Vito / Irens fans suffering :(|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|mb|1C|an| |mb|p|mb|1H|an|5+!H forsing|nt|blum1956: this time everything works and the slam is a laydown|pg||
mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4N|mb|p|mb|5D|mb|p|mb|6H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: Good stuff, but one would expect this to be flat|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c7|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h3|pc|hJ|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cT|nt|dburn: with these trumps, best to lead an honour from the dummy - missing the seven, better to lead low|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hT|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|c9|pg||
nt|benjy:  Glad you're here David!|pg||
nt|glen: now we just need a hand for Burn's Law|pg||
nt|blum1956: hello David|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|c22|st||md|4SK974HK93DQ9CJ843,SQHAJ764DKT652CT7,S8632H85D743CQ965,SAJT5HQT2DAJ8CAK2|sv|e|mb|1C|nt|pelu: 800 if !§H10 - but only a diff of 2IMP|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|rado: easy 3NT for NS10-11 tricks|pg||
mb|p|nt|alok_daga: 2dmnds=?in their methods|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2N|nt|fabsayc: a mystery :)|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  "nt must have a meaning |pg||
nt|galadriel: EW did very well to reach 6@H next door|pg||
nt|jfaria:  2|pg||
nt|galadriel: let's see if they can reach slam here|pg||
mb|3C|an|.|mb|p|nt|rado: seems lie Wylkos 2@D 5M5+ unknown|pg||
nt|rado: *like|pg||
nt|rado: for Sure E tryes to attak in partner's long Major|pg||
nt|alok_daga: seems xxle=bid your next suit,thus 2dmnds=dmnds+another.cant think of anything else|pg||
mb|3D|an|.|mb|p|mb|3S|an|.|nt|rado: maybe our kibs from Netherlands will help?|pg||
mb|p|nt|jfaria:  at this time i guess E already knows about W @h |pg||
nt|galadriel: strong @C auctions are very useful in these hands as they allow lots of room for exploration|pg||
nt|jfaria:  indeed|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  with no oposition i guess they will reach 6|pg||
nt|galadriel: the @H10 is a big card :)|pg||
mb|5H|an|.|nt|jfaria:  better in @h, any imp may become precious|pg||
mb|p|nt|galadriel: Indeed|pg||
mb|6H|nt|glen: 3NT in the other room is one of those few 3NT contracts where there are 8 tricks, but almost no hope of 9|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: well done|pg||
nt|jfaria:  no swing in sight|pg||
nt|jfaria:  correction, can make 7|pg||
nt|galadriel: They had one more round of bidding here|pg||
nt|jfaria:  just guessing, but after the happy finding of K@h declarer will play for a split in the reds missing|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c5|pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
nt|jfaria:  putting @d Q with N|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|pc|hA|pc|h5|pg||
nt|galadriel: A kib is just reminding me that EW were on the Norwegian team that won the Bermuda bowl, so they are no strangers to pressure|pg||
pc|h4|pc|h8|pc|hT|pc|h3|pg||
nt|pelu: very normal - when u have 8 tricks in yopur hand - u hope for the 9. by partner - I like 3Nt by East|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dJ|nt|fabsayc: that was queen of spades, not eight|pg||
pc|dQ|pg||
mc|12|nt|vugraphpl8: a little break|pg||
pg||
qx|o23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|nt|bjacobs: that's playing it safe!|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|an| |mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2S|mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  Townsend will X this|pg||
nt|glen: the 4@H transfer (bidding 4@H gets opps to bid 4@S)|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: they were probably right - 4@h was likely to make|pg||
pc|h2|nt|glen: this is 1@H, 1@C, 2@Ds|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
nt|dburn: but I expect South to open at the other table, and West to double, so the final contract will be the same|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@s makes most of the times, 4@sx being only one down|pg||
nt|dburn: unless North pushes on th 5@h, which isn't impossible|pg||
nt|blum1956: 4@h makes I mean|pg||
nt|benjy:  I think after 1@H X 3@S (splinter) 4S p p X south should pass having already showed interest in playing at the 5 level with the forcing pass|pg||
nt|dburn: in some ways Townsend would like to play a club, to let Bakshi know that Rusev doesn't have a guess in the suit|pg||
nt|dburn: but the trouble with this is that if Bakshi then continues clubs on the actual layout, something bad will happen|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c7|nt|dburn: well, that's the first part of this dire prediction...|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|pg||
pc|c2|nt|bjacobs: 2nd part coming up|pg||
nt|dburn: ...and that's the second|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cT|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|s2|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d2|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|s9|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c6|pc|cQ|pc|s5|pc|c4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|hK|mc|10|nt|benjy:  why lead a @C in the first place? How can it gain? he knows that south has 4@Cs|pg||
pg||
qx|c23|st||md|1SJ3HKT532DK3CA842,SKQ94H7DQJT8CK963,STHAJ96DA7652CQT5,SA87652HQ84D94CJ7|sv|b|nt|glen: if W had SK, instead of @SQ, and @Hs still blocked, 9 tricks|pg||
nt|jfaria:  another possible big swing|pg||
mb|1H|mb|d|mb|2N|an|.|nt|galadriel: Wow - EW have a huge board in open room|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|nt|glen: this was a tough choice for E in the other room - if NS are playing a modern style, bidding without high card points, then EW may have game|pg||
nt|alok_daga: guess the color of the brd prevented east from entering the auction|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: all bbo tables- http://www.bridgebase.com/mobile/|pg||
mb|p|mb|5H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: 2@H overcall (alomst) OK - but why did East bid on in CR? - and here??|pg||
nt|jfaria:  NS misplayed and 9@c provided a @d discard in open|pg||
mb|p|pc|sK|nt|rado: nice stop by NS|pg||
nt|jfaria:  maybe another double game swing?|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
nt|galadriel: if he guesses the @H|pg||
pc|c7|nt|jfaria:  W x but E has lenght in @s ...|pg||
nt|galadriel: Unlikely to get it right|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c3|nt|pelu: just to penalyse partner - u cant exoect that u can make game - so pass to 2@H - only game on Thankgivingsday and Christmas :)|pg||
pc|c5|pg||
nt|alok_daga: prediction proved wrong,4clubs=+6 IMPS|pg||
nt|jfaria:  who has a short in @h?|pg||
pc|h2|nt|alok_daga: XXLEDUMMY West gets thrown in,forced 2 play dmnds.whether declarer takes that line or not is different|pg||
nt|rado: K@C and Q@D now|pg||
nt|rado: with 52 cards:) |pg||
pc|h7|nt|rado: but declarer probably will play A@D to keep entries to Dummy|pg||
pc|hA|nt|pelu: agre, Glen?|pg||
nt|jfaria:  if any|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h8|pc|h3|pc|s4|pg||
nt|jfaria:  got it right|pg||
nt|galadriel: A likely 12 imps to Vito|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|galadriel: Oh - even more|pg||
pc|c6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d8|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d3|pc|dT|pc|dA|nt|glen: i think if it depends on the NS actually, if meckwell bid 1@S-p-1NT, they may have 10 points and we have 30|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s5|pc|h5|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c2|nt|galadriel: 16?|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|nt|dburn: yes. but he doesn't know South has only four clubs - he might have five and duck declarer's singleton jack|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: that was what Townsend was trying to prevent, at any rate|pg||
mb|1H|mb|p|nt|benjy:  i doubt that as i'm sure the 2@H showed 5 and with 55 he would have prob bid 1nt to show the other two suits|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: He didn't bid 2@H|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|nt|benjy:  he led the 2@H|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: sorry|pg||
pc|c4|nt|benjy:  so i think he was marked with 54 in @H and @C|pg||
nt|dburn: still, South oght to have known that declarer had two clubs - with @cQJ10x Townsend would not have led the low one|pg||
pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dK|pc|dA|nt|bjacobs: So he had to bank on partner having @DA ... and lead from his @DKx.  Bridge shouldn't be this difficult|pg||
pc|d5|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
nt|benjy:  I agree, but it is.|pg||
nt|blum1956: North must have an Ace - that may be the diamond one or the trump one, the latter being less probable|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Yes, the latter is unlikely ... North would presumably have led a diamond through, lacking the ace|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Inference upon inference|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Mrs Kafoops would have just returned her partner's suit|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d2|pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|h2|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h3|nt|dburn: moreover, I am not sure that North-South lead 3rd and 5th - if they don't, North had no way of knowing that South had five hearts and not 1=4=3=5 shape|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h5|pc|h6|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c5|pc|cK|pc|c2|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|nt|benjy:  If they don't then I stand corrected|pg||
pc|h7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|h9|pc|c8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|h8|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pc|hK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s7|pc|sT|pg||
pc|s9|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pc|sQ|pg||
pg||
qx|c24|st||md|2SAK9HK9752DQJ8CA5,S86HT864DK32CK874,SJ742HJ3DAT97CJ92,SQT53HAQD654CQT63|sv|o|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or32runda1.html|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: if decl play @D10 out of hand only down 1|pg||
nt|pelu: N is endplayed|pg||
mb|p|nt|glen: operators trained to entry two bids at a time, here W passed quickly, N thought|pg||
nt|galadriel: These high level decisions are so difficult - and can be soo costly|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|jfaria:  we all know that :(|pg||
pc|c7|pc|c9|pc|cT|nt|jfaria:  more imps coming 4 NS|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|galadriel: Even the experts get them wrong sometimes, which is a great comfort to allof us :)|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|pelu: ok last board - tx to my fellow commentators - an to a group of very active kibs :), and spec tx to the polish IT-operators who are doing an outstanding job - and finaly to out ...|pg||
nt|pelu: ecelent operator at the table|pg||
pc|d2|nt|glen: the problem for N is that he did not show a great 14 high card point hand with 2NT|pg||
pc|d7|pc|d4|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dK|pc|dA|pc|d6|pg||
pc|dT|pc|c6|pc|h5|nt|vugraphpl8: bye|pg||
nt|pelu: but after a free bid by Jansma he could try once more|pg||
nt|glen: Balicki, with N hand for Monaco/Poland, overcalled 1@H and later bid @Ds|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
pc|s2|nt|galadriel: Well I have alot of sympathy with David Bakshi ( South in other room) for upgrading this hand|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|pc|c2|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c3|pc|h7|pc|cK|pc|cJ|pg||
nt|galadriel: (Ithink) he showed 18-19|pg||
pc|c8|pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|h2|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|h6|pc|s7|pg||
pc|sT|pc|hK|pc|hT|pc|sJ|pg||
pg||
qx|o25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|mb|1D|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: not sure if N always opens that, but after bd 23 wants to be active|pg||
nt|dburn: no support double, I am pleased to note|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|nt|glen: you don't support support doubles?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: don't get him started|pg||
nt|benjy:  I have found out that north south do play 3rd 5th leads|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|nt|glen: you would think that a convention that helps check on Burns Law would be perfect|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|dburn: even so, they don't play fourth best from QJ10x|pg||
nt|blum1956: this double could have been passed for  500|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|glen: or a support double could have been passed for 500|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c6|nt|dburn: true - will have to apologise humbly to team-mates for scoring only 460 instead|pg||
pc|c3|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c8|pc|c9|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|blum1956: just 400 i guess|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
pc|c4|pc|d2|nt|dburn: indeed - apology will need to be humbler still|pg||
pc|d5|pc|cK|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h5|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sK|nt|glen: i think grovel is required|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|c25|st||md|3SAKQJ7HKQ9D73CK93,SHA42DAT94CQJT754,S852HJT73DKQJ2CA2,ST9643H865D865C86|sv|e|nt|galadriel: But it got his side to an unmakable game|pg||
nt|jfaria:  my sympathy goes with yours Anne|pg||
mb|1D|mb|p|nt|fabsayc: we hit those light openings so hard they were intimidated to open :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|2C|mb|p|mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|cQ|pc|c2|pc|c8|nt|rado: another quiet board now|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|fabsayc: the ninth trick on the lead|pg||
pc|hK|nt|jfaria:  nothing special on this one, G/T runnig out of hope|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h5|pg||
pc|c5|nt|alok_daga: how gud can this nt be?QJ tight in 1 suit,1 suit barren.agreed 1cl 1sp response presents problems but 1nt?|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s4|nt|rado: will will make 10 since W cannot lead 2nd @H now|pg||
nt|alok_daga: the steamroller at work,22 IMPS lead|pg||
nt|alok_daga: 21|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h7|pc|h6|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h4|pc|hT|pc|h8|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|d6|pc|c9|pc|d9|pg||
nt|jfaria:  now E can split, S lacks an netry to colect 5@s|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s9|pc|sK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|dT|pc|s5|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|c7|pc|d2|pc|s3|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|nt|glen: now the 16 imps on board 23, just ignore|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1H|mb|p|mb|2D|an|4!H 8-11pc|mb|p|mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: in one way it's good news ... the disaster defence only cost 6 imps|pg||
mb|p|pc|sA|nt|bjacobs: a few more pieces of good news like that and they can head straight to the bar|pg||
nt|glen: beer garden|pg||
nt|glen: there is a beer garden just outside the playing venue|pg||
nt|glen: the @D 7 is the most valuable card in the tournament|pg||
nt|glen: the defense here has 3 aces, but the @H queen is trapped|pg||
pc|s2|nt|glen: the @H 9 is a nice card to have|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sK|pg||
pc|s6|nt|dburn: not in this layout - more irritating for the opponents if you don't have it|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s5|pc|s9|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pg||
pc|cA|nt|bjacobs: Perhaps it's best that you do have it, otherwise a third spade here ...|pg||
nt|glen: if you switch the @H 8 and 9, can E get a @S ruff in?|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|h9|nt|blum1956: why not?|pg||
nt|glen: exactly, so @H 9 is nice to have|pg||
pc|c3|pc|s3|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c26|st||md|4SQJ32HJT73DA6CQ65,ST8754HAQDT932CA4,SK9HK9642DKQ85CK8,SA6H85DJ74CJT9732|sv|b|mb|p|nt|rado: 5@S makable for EW now|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|2H|mb|2S|mb|3H|nt|rado: E will try for Slam for sure|pg||
mb|p|nt|rado: maybe 2nd transfer to show slam interest|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: EW doing their best to keep NS out of game|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|galadriel: And succeeding!|pg||
nt|galadriel: 10 back|pg||
nt|jfaria:  with 2 places to play, and the minor being @d N could double instead|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c4|nt|rado: W has good support so keeps the level low|pg||
nt|alok_daga: dont think they will have2 reach 5 East has expressed all he had 2 say|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|rado: oooops|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h3|nt|fabsayc: i prefer a self splinter of 4@C on second turn|pg||
pc|hA|pg||
nt|rado: yes always good not to risk 5 lvl, nice bidding from EW here|pg||
nt|fabsayc: perhaps east showed his singleton|pg||
nt|alok_daga: assume 3hrts,3nt meant some sort of shortage|pg||
nt|jfaria:  tuff, only 2 boards left |pg||
nt|galadriel: For running scores http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|hQ|pc|h2|pc|h8|pc|h7|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|dA|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sK|pc|sA|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/or321t7-2.htm|pg||
nt|galadriel: I think the Bulgarians are a young team- some have played for the national open team and some for National Juniors|pg||
nt|galadriel: Maybe a spec can tell me if I'm wrong|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c6|pc|cA|pc|c8|pg||
nt|galadriel: Ah, ok this is a Junior pair|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2N|an|4+!S GF|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|glen: many still play jacob 2NT, but modify the rebid structure|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: here 3@C likely showed any minimum|pg||
mb|p|pc|hQ|nt|vugraphpl3: yes. 3@C is minimum|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h5|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d7|pg||
pc|sA|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|bjacobs: Declarer will play on the red suits, and hope to force opps to break the clubs|pg||
nt|bjacobs: He'll succeed|pg||
nt|bjacobs: But with @CJ onside anyway, the hand was foolproof|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Still, this way, he makes if either the @c9 or @CJ is onside|pg||
nt|blum1956: meanwhile the 5@d save was available for the EW side|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d6|pc|dA|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h4|pc|h2|pc|hA|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Not much value in it though - 300 against a 4@S that was not clear was going to make|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|d3|pc|s2|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c27|st||md|1SAJ542HK94DQCQT83,SQHQJ2DKT742CA976,SK863HA873DJ6CK42,ST97HT65DA9853CJ5|sv|o|nt|galadriel: Maybe just South|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: Only N can be a Junior|pg||
nt|galadriel: My goodness - I got 49 replies all at once!|pg||
nt|galadriel: Thank you everyone :)|pg||
mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N|mb|3D|nt|vugraphpl8: :)|pg||
mb|3S|nt|galadriel: Only South is Junior National|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|jfaria:  what is 3@s |pg||
nt|jfaria:  another lsot game|pg||
pc|d2|nt|fabsayc: 2@D asks size and spade length by steps|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dA|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d5|pc|s2|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|s4|pc|sQ|pc|sK|pc|s7|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s9|pc|sJ|pc|d4|pg||
pc|sA|pc|dT|pc|s6|pc|sT|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c6|pc|cK|pc|c5|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|glen: this is the type of hand that gets the commentatory to end early|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bjacobs: So dull boards at the end, and presumably this is the end of the match and the end of Irens|pg||
nt|glen: but now S is in there with a double|pg||
nt|benjy:  is it?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bjacobs: who, South doubled|pg||
pc|c5|nt|bjacobs: ok, cheap at -170|pg||
nt|benjy:  would you guys pass it out?|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c9|pg||
nt|dburn: yes|pg||
pc|cA|pc|c6|pc|c4|pc|c3|pg||
nt|glen: i would go to the beer garden, and pass out|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
pc|c2|pc|sA|pc|d5|pc|c7|pg||
nt|bjacobs: sounds like a plan|pg||
nt|benjy:  They have both been pushing in the last few boards, due to the -790 disaster, perhaps thats what swayed him|pg||
nt|blum1956: singleton club asks for pass - while sometimes 5@d or even 6@d may be on the table|pg||
pc|s7|nt|glen: thank you Simona, our great operator for this match :)|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
nt|blum1956: sorry that was doubleton)) pass anyway|pg||
nt|bjacobs: will he finesse?|pg||
nt|bjacobs: funny|pg||
mc|10|nt|glen: operator, please let W know about the claim button|pg||
nt|bjacobs: hardly - he took a first round spade finesse Glen!|pg||
nt|glen: thanks all, was fun :)|pg||
nt|blum1956: thanks all. spectators and fellow commentators|pg||
nt|bjacobs: Cheers|pg||
nt|benjy:  Thanks all|pg||
nt|vugraphpl3: next round 15.30 :) bye|pg||
pg||
qx|c28|st||md|2S2H8763DA8763CAQ2,SAKJ9873HK42DJC96,ST65HJT5DQT954C54,SQ4HAQ9DK2CKJT873|sv|n|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|galadriel: Last board now - |pg||
nt|jfaria:  not enough|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|vugraphpl8: sry|pg||
nt|jfaria:  but still emotion till las board|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|galadriel: Many thanks to Michal our VG operator - great job!|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s4|pc|d3|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sT|pc|c3|pc|h6|pg||
nt|galadriel: and to Jaoa my fellow commentator :)|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c4|nt|jfaria:  thx my inspired coleague operator and fantastic kibs :)|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h5|pc|h9|pg||
nt|galadriel: And to all the wonderful specs for your helpful comments|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c5|nt|jfaria:  i meant first u Anne :)|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cA|pg||
nt|galadriel: Sry Joao :)|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|pc|d4|pc|d2|pg||
mc|10|nt|jfaria:  a "," is missing|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: Irens is K.O.|pg||
nt|jfaria:  lol|pg||
nt|galadriel: Congratulations Vito :)|pg||
nt|vugraphpl8: next match at 15.30|pg||
nt|galadriel: Bye evryone :)|pg||
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