vg|B EC 2011 Open Teams RR _,2_7,I,11,20,Mahaffey,0,Aspe,0|
rs|3NW+2,3NE+3,4SN+3,4SS+2,4SS=,4SN-1,4HN=,4HS=,2CS-1,1SS=,4SE-1,3CS-2,4HE-1,3HE=,4SSx+1,5SSx=,6DE+1,6DW+1,2CN-1,2SN-2|
pn|Meckstroth,Jarosz,Rodwell,Klimacki,Szczepansk,Mahaffey,Krzeminski,Cohler|pg||
qx|o11|st||md|1S973HAJDJ86543CT9,S862HKT9DA2CKQ763,SK54HQ7654DT7CJ54,SAQJTH832DKQ9CA82|sv|o|mb|p|nt|roswolf: this should be good viewing|pg||
nt|roswolf: Meckwell in action|pg||
nt|bigtrain: hi everyone|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: a strtaightforward 3nt for e/w to start|pg||
mb|1N|nt|MarekW: http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
mb|p|mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: hi Walter|pg||
pc|h5|nt|roswolf: i think e/w play classic polish club|pg||
pc|h2|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h9|pc|hQ|pc|h3|pg||
pc|h6|pc|h8|pc|d6|pc|hK|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|sT|pc|s7|pg||
nt|roswolf: north has no entry so no problem for declarer|pg||
pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pc|d7|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|s3|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s8|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|c11|st||md|1S973HAJDJ86543CT9,S862HKT9DA2CKQ763,SK54HQ7654DT7CJ54,SAQJTH832DKQ9CA82|sv|o|mb|p|nt|granguru:  HI|pg||
mb|1C|mb|p|nt|pelu: hi|pg||
mb|1S|mb|p|mb|2S|mb|p|mb|2N|mb|p|mb|3C|mb|p|nt|paulg:  Results for the first match in the round-robin can be seen at http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrleaderb.html|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru:  finally we got to a std 3NT|pg||
nt|pelu: all card well placed = 12 tricks|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d7|pc|d9|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s5|pc|sJ|nt|pelu: also 3Nt in OR|pg||
pc|s7|pg||
nt|granguru:  funnily if  opens the hand (1N) there is a good chance to arrive at 6@C|pg||
nt|paulg:  could be worth a couple of imps if it is played by West in the other room|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c9|pc|cK|pc|c4|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|s9|pc|s8|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d3|nt|granguru:  but thaa|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c3|pc|c5|pg||
nt|granguru:  but that's fiction bridge :)|pg||
mc|12|pg||
qx|o12|st||md|2SA7652HQTDQJTCAJ6,SJ4HJ932D92CKT952,SKT98HK54DAK863CQ,SQ3HA876D754C8743|sv|n|mb|p|mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = the nebulous diamond (2+ 10-15) -- you'll see it alot|pg||
mb|2N!|nt|roswolf: 1nt just tactical or systemic?|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: optional|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with singleton king its systematic|pg||
nt|roswolf: well 6@S is playable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: with singleton queen its optional|pg||
nt|roswolf: or even 6@D|pg||
nt|roswolf: 2NT =?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i doubt they bid it|pg||
mb|3N|mb|p|mb|4S|nt|bigtrain: superaccept, the best one|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: well i think they should but 1nt was not the best start to the auction|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they won't off an ace and the Qxxx in trump|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|nt|bigtrain: generally speaking they don't bid that type of slam|pg||
pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|s8|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|sQ|nt|roswolf: 2nt was clearly a superaccept but did it show something specific - south may well be put off by thinking north isnt shapely|pg||
pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they are pretty conservative slam bidders|pg||
mc|13|nt|bigtrain: nothing specific|pg||
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qx|c12|st||md|2SA7652HQTDQJTCAJ6,SJ4HJ932D92CKT952,SKT98HK54DAK863CQ,SQ3HA876D754C8743|sv|n|nt|granguru:  not a good slam |pg||
nt|granguru:  another potential slam here|pg||
nt|granguru:  a better one thou|pg||
nt|pelu: only need to play @s-siut with no loser|pg||
nt|granguru:  still it  needs @s 2-2 or stiff honor in E and a good guess|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|mb|p|nt|pelu: Hi all - as every time there are problems before the first match - players has to find the right table and so on|pg||
mb|1S|nt|pelu: not with odds - but better that a "Roland-slam"|pg||
mb|p|nt|paulg:  Pleased to see that South has a name, but I think I'll stick with 'South'|pg||
nt|granguru:  exchange black QÂ´s and it would have been a rock iron contract|pg||
mb|3S|nt|pelu: we begin with a possible slam|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Rodwell did open the N hand with 1NT???|pg||
mb|4C|mb|d|nt|granguru:  I would have done it if @CK|pg||
nt|paulg:  i think many in the field will bid this one|pg||
mb|4D|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|nt|pelu: and I would open 1@D 100% (=4+@d)|pg||
nt|paulg:  North has distribution and they have a lot of controls|pg||
nt|granguru:  4@C cue X @Cs|pg||
nt|granguru:  N could have xx to show second round ctrl|pg||
nt|pelu: when N open 1Nt then Meckstroth has no slam ambitions|pg||
nt|pelu: RD = 1. round control|pg||
nt|granguru:  but then it is more complicate to show @d ctrls|pg||
nt|granguru:  RD is second if 4@C was first|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: @H-lead - 2x@s and @C finess|pg||
pc|h2|nt|pelu: ok that makes life easyer for dsecl|pg||
pc|h4|pc|hA|pc|hT|pg||
nt|paulg:  It is much easier for us, but can South have less than this to make a slam try with no heart control?|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|cQ|pg||
pc|s2|nt|granguru:  N S expects that @S dont behave...|pg||
pc|s4|nt|pelu: do u know players where cuebid are 1. control - to day 1. or 2.? back in the 50'es in US they only cuebid Aces - and lost to Italy every time :)|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|sJ|pg||
mc|12|nt|granguru:  :) true|pg||
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qx|o13|st||md|3SJT643HT62DJCAT42,SK72H54DA86CKQ985,SA98HAKJ3DKQ53C63,SQ5HQ987DT9742CJ7|sv|b|nt|bigtrain: the antithesis of their game-bidding attitude|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg||
mb|1C!|nt|bigtrain: or their value|pg||
nt|roswolf: well then is is a routine 4@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D!|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7|pg||
mb|2C|mb|d!|mb|p|nt|roswolf: the poles mix it up|pg||
nt|bigtrain: X = takout|pg||
mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: anyone care to elucidate the bidding?|pg||
nt|roswolf: 1@D = neg?|pg||
pc|h4|nt|bigtrain: i have already - at least from the n/s prespective :)|pg||
nt|roswolf: :)|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|pc|c7|pc|cA|pg||
nt|bigtrain: not sure if there are 10 tricks available here|pg||
nt|bigtrain: too much to do|pg||
nt|bigtrain: looks like you need Hx onside in trump or @HQ in the pocket|pg||
pc|s3|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|c6|pg||
pc|h5|nt|bigtrain: oops|pg||
nt|bigtrain: @C10 is the tenth winner|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h8|pc|h6|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d4|pc|hT|pc|d6|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d7|pc|s4|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sT|pc|s7|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sK|pc|sA|pc|d2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|dT|pc|c2|pc|c5|pg||
pc|h3|pc|h9|pc|sJ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|hJ|pc|hQ|pg||
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qx|c13|st||md|3SJT643HT62DJCAT42,SK72H54DA86CKQ985,SA98HAKJ3DKQ53C63,SQ5HQ987DT9742CJ7|sv|b|nt|rcerreto:  here we are again|pg||
nt|brolucius: Jeffrey Allerton and Frances Hinden (who is playing at the other table) are a couple, and have won the prestigious Gold Cup (Britain's top knock-out) together.|pg||
nt|brolucius: So far as I know, Hinden has never played women's bridge. She is a top executive for an oil company.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: what do we know about their systems?|pg||
nt|brolucius: E/W were playing straightforward stuff against Russia. I assume that the French play the standard French system, near enough. It will be good kibitzing.|pg||
nt|granguru:  but it is a good idea that the very first control is A (or KQ)|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|mb|2H|mb|p|nt|granguru:  would like to hear your arguments...I am open minded :)|pg||
mb|3C|an| |mb|p|nt|granguru:  kibz might enjoy an expert view on the matter|pg||
nt|paulg:  I don't think cue bidding first and second round controls equally makes a huge difference to bidding slams, a lot of it still comes down to judgement|pg||
mb|3H|nt|paulg:  i think the italians beat the americans so often because they had practised partnerships and better bidding methods|pg||
nt|granguru:  being an  expensive deparment players try to reduce judgement and increase accuracy|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|nt|granguru:  agree paul|pg||
nt|paulg:  this hand has another debatable point .. how do you break transfers?|pg||
nt|pelu: too difficult to start a cue bid if only A, a cue is an invitation for slam and often u will miss that - and bidding economy also tell u to start with the lovers cue bid|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Since there were so many small boards in the first half, I was hoping that all the spectacular stuff had been saved for the second half. False hopes...|pg||
mb|4S|nt|Walddk5: Welcome to Murat|pg||
nt|MolvaM: hello everyone :)|pg||
nt|pelu: 5 toptricks for defense, but not easy to take them|pg||
nt|paulg:  i dislike showing a weak doubleton and telling them what to lead|pg||
nt|granguru:  at top level players almost always lead the right card|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|granguru:  so it is better to bid accurately|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: East has found a strong lead.|pg||
pc|cJ|nt|pelu: now 7 tricks for Tokay|pg||
nt|pelu: prob 3@C dont show about @Cs but only maxz and 3 card support|pg||
nt|paulg:  but i approve of breaking the transfer with only 3-card support, when you are so suitable|pg||
nt|granguru:  once hamman erred a gran slam lead...20 years the hand was appearing in the news|pg||
pc|cA|nt|granguru:  And he used Judgement..with 2 aces he led the shortest one..(wrong)|pg||
pc|c8|pc|c6|pg||
pc|dJ|nt|MolvaM: running a long suit usually creates problems for the defence|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d3|pc|d7|pg||
nt|brolucius: Now a club ruff will beat it.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: -1 with best defence. a @c switch now|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  @h9 ?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  looks to ask for @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Failing that, a trump misguess by declarer.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: and in that case possibilities to -2|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  E isn't willing to ask for a @c switch, not knowing what partner has in @c I think|pg||
nt|brolucius: South was declarer, after a transfer response to 1@C, at the other table.|pg||
nt|brolucius: We thought, in the match against Russia, that they seemed to be playing reverse suit-preference. So, maybe she has asked for a club.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: But if there is any possibility to defeat, it must be a @c ruff by E. Declarer can have @sKQJ|pg||
nt|pelu: in CR EW missed the defense against 4@S - played by S: @H to K, @D to A Now @CK to A, @S to 8 and Q, @CJ to Q - but not @C again|pg||
pc|c2|nt|pelu: now 9|pg||
pc|c9|pc|c3|pc|c7|pg||
nt|pelu: well played by W - he set up a trap - and N fall in|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and looking happily for the 10th|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pg||
nt|granguru:  looks that there is no way to win...no entry to dummy|pg||
nt|granguru:  @DK ?|pg||
pc|d5|nt|granguru:  what about small @d ?|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s3|pc|d8|pg||
nt|brolucius: So the chance is missed.|pg||
pc|c4|nt|brolucius: Ralf's analysis is good. It does seem that a club switch was indicated.|pg||
pc|cK|pc|s9|pc|sQ|pg||
pc|h8|pc|h6|pc|h4|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|granguru:  ans @s finesse--not @C|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s5|pc|s4|pc|s2|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|d2|pc|s6|pc|dA|pg||
nt|pelu: strange defense to duck @dJ |pg||
nt|granguru:  made now|pg||
nt|paulg:  no, he's down now|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cQ|pc|s8|nt|granguru:  y not enough trumps|pg||
pc|d9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h9|pc|hT|pc|s7|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o14|st||md|4SJHJT432DJ64CAQ52,SA43H9DQ9752CT874,SKT82HAK85DATCKJ6,SQ9765HQ76DK83C93|sv|o|nt|roswolf: another routine game|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@S = 5+@H GF|pg||
mb|1S!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 4@H i bet|pg||
nt|roswolf: safe assumption|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1 would ask controls|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 1NT|pg||
mb|4H|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: but i doubt he looks for slam|pg||
pc|s6|nt|roswolf: a little agricultural for meckwell -normally a little subtlety is shown|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h7|pc|h2|pc|h9|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h6|pc|h3|nt|bigtrain: being conservative slam bidders...  they try to leave few clues when just bidding game|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s5|pc|d6|pc|s3|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|h4|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c4|pc|cK|pc|c3|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hQ|pc|cQ|pc|c8|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|nt|roswolf: the wbsite for results etc is http://www.poznan2011.pl/|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|c14|st||md|4SJHJT432DJ64CAQ52,SA43H9DQ9752CT874,SKT82HAK85DATCKJ6,SQ9765HQ76DK83C93|sv|o|nt|paulg:  it was very tricky and I'm not sure he ever saw a line to make it. As I was struggling seeing all the hands, I'm not surprised really.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  openings are getting lighter and lighter, these days|pg||
nt|paulg:  his line did have a lot of play|pg||
mb|1C|an| |nt|granguru:  well if @H behave he could have made it..but that would have mean @S were also 1-1 and the line should have been different|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|pelu: top-players dont like the @d-suit :)|pg||
mb|1N|mb|4H|nt|rcerreto:  tough lead|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  nothing appeals, @d looks normal|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I know about 3700 people who would bid 2nt with east hand|pg||
nt|granguru:  as I said at the beginning ..probably @S finesse instead of a @C|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: Mahaffey won the first match 17-13 against a team from Romania (with Bocchi-Maddala!?), Aspe lost 10-20 to a strong team from England|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski plays 4@H here|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  leading the longest suit is always an option|pg||
mb|p|pc|d5|nt|paulg:  Bocchi-Madala are playing for Lavazza in another group, whatever the results page says|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d8|pc|d4|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  David, would you lead small or an honour?|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h6|nt|pelu: if 1Nt = 12-14 I know as mynu who would pass - 12-14 + 10 = 22-24 and no spec fit|pg||
nt|Walddk5: Welcome to our second Murat, Anter|pg||
pc|h2|nt|MolvaM: the results page is here http://www.poznan2011.pl/results but since the event just started there is nothing in so far|pg||
pc|h9|pg||
nt|granguru:  madala's father was the greatest VUGRAPH comentator of all times...a full show|pg||
pc|hK|pc|h7|pc|h3|nt|granguru:  bridge rama at the time|pg||
pc|d2|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  Ralf?|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c3|nt|dburn: I guess I would lead low - some danger of a blockage if partner has @dJx, for example|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am in the middle of writing a book that involves computer analysis of opening leads. We have found that leading the top honour is generally right.|pg||
pc|cJ|pc|c9|pc|c5|pc|c4|pg||
nt|brolucius: More often than the old text-books suggest.|pg||
pc|c6|pc|hQ|nt|ralfwil: an honour, if dummy has a middle @d|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  computer analysis could change several paradigms|pg||
pc|cQ|nt|MolvaM: 3nt could be reached on this board in the open room|pg||
nt|paulg:  i'm sure they'll fix the team lineups on the results pages quickly, they have been very efficient|pg||
pc|cT|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dT|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
mc|10|pg||
qx|o15|st||md|1SAQJ92HQTDJ5CAKJ6,ST74HJ3DAQ83CQT85,S3H98642D97642C43,SK865HAK75DKTC972|sv|n|nt|bigtrain: 1@C = 16+|pg||
mb|1C!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@D = 0-7 any|pg||
mb|1D!|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|nt|roswolf: EVEN 1@Dwould be an overbid if that hand!:)|pg||
mb|1N!|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1@S shows 4+@S and is forcing|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 1NT = 0-5 any without 4+@S|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2@C is natural and shows 9+ black cards either suit can be longer|pg||
nt|roswolf: http://b.poznan2011.pl/ot/orrrunda2.html for all groups|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d2|pc|dT|pc|d5|pg||
pc|d3|pc|d4|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cA|pc|c5|pc|c3|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C+|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|s3|pc|s5|pg||
nt|bigtrain: sorry that was a private response|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|s4|pc|h2|pc|sK|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cJ|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|dQ|nt|roswolf: declarer is fortunate that the @C10 FALLS|pg||
pc|d6|pc|h5|pc|c6|pg||
pc|cK|pc|c8|pc|d7|pc|c9|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sT|pc|h4|pc|s6|pg||
pc|s9|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|s8|pg||
pc|s2|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|h7|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c15|st||md|1SAQJ92HQTDJ5CAKJ6,ST74HJ3DAQ83CQT85,S3H98642D97642C43,SK865HAK75DKTC972|sv|n|nt|brolucius: We did not mention that Cronier's 3NT was rather bold. Most would bid 2NT and a (very) few might bid 1NT.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  true|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  well judged|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but he needed @dJ on dummy|pg||
mb|1C|an| |mb|p|mb|1D|an| |nt|pelu: ok NS play transfer over 1@c|pg||
mb|d|nt|rcerreto:  that's why she bid 3 :)|pg||
nt|brolucius: Maybe 2@D?|pg||
mb|1S|nt|ralfwil: how many @s from W? I vote for 3@s|pg||
nt|paulg:  i expect double shows the majors|pg||
nt|pelu: nice play to get 7 tricks in 2@c|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  a good partner has the J|pg||
mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  oops, sorry|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he bid|pg||
nt|ralfwil: anyone with me?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  with 2@d?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Closer to 3@S than 1@S, perhaps.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  1@s looks a little timid to me|pg||
nt|pelu: strange take out X by Baldurson|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: a 6-card suit @hK and a stiff @d|pg||
nt|brolucius: Spade game needs to be bid.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  good sacrifice in 5@d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so 1@s probably shows 3 card spades?|pg||
nt|pelu: sorry - prob support x in @H|pg||
pc|hJ|nt|brolucius: I don't know that 1@H was right when East had indicated the majors.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe it was also meant to show real @c|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  unsure though|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 3@h is for me a strong 3@s rise and an invite to 4@s|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and baldurson dbl is kind of a support dbl?|pg||
nt|pelu: ok he was down 2 - but recived a gift|pg||
pc|h2|nt|brolucius: Allerton may have misread 3@H but East can correct.|pg||
nt|brolucius: Anyway, this is the sort of board we were looking for, after so much drab stuff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  he has a pretty good hand, in context|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but you agree with the strong rise David?|pg||
pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
nt|brolucius: Presumably intended as that. Since 1@S shows very little, as I see it, East might also consider 3@S.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: but the best with this bidding is that W has shown his @h honour|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  maybe their standard for free bids is higher than yours and mine|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sQ|nt|pelu: Easr didnt read the X from West as @hs|pg||
nt|pelu: saved by S|pg||
nt|murat: good afternoon all :)|pg||
nt|pelu: wellcome now we hace 2 x Murat :)|pg||
pc|s4|nt|brolucius: Although we may quibble with the odd bid or two, it seems that the players have judged it very well around the table. |pg||
nt|rcerreto:  anyway, they succeeded in bidding the par|pg||
nt|brolucius: The term 'free bid' was responsible for a lot of awful bidding many decades ago.|pg||
nt|murat: guess one of the most common names of Turkey :)|pg||
pc|s3|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  in a difficult board|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, indeed|pg||
nt|granguru:  !<s now|pg||
nt|granguru:  @s|pg||
nt|granguru:   s must lose all his losers|pg||
nt|granguru:  no uppercut now if s plays @s correctly|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s7|pc|c3|pc|s5|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|sT|nt|pelu: as Peter in Denmark :)|pg||
nt|granguru:  done|pg||
pc|d2|nt|rcerreto:  free-bid is something very different today|pg||
pc|sK|pg||
nt|granguru:  -1|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|d3|pc|h4|pg||
nt|brolucius: I am told that 4@S failed at one table of the other semi. Do four round of clubs and a ruff with the king, leave declarer with some sort of guess?|pg||
nt|granguru:  @C would have best|pg||
pc|hT|pc|h3|pc|h6|pc|hA|pg||
nt|granguru:  now @C is amust|pg||
pc|c7|pc|cJ|nt|pelu: we dont have contact to the Open room, but Board 3 _ the 3NT with 5 toptricks out - gave 10 IMPs to Lavazza|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|d4|pc|c9|nt|brolucius: Hardly because South would not lead a 4th club if his trumps were non-existent.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  think so|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d6|pc|dT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|d7|pc|c2|pc|cK|pg||
pc|d5|pc|d8|pc|d9|pc|dK|pg||
pc|h5|pc|c6|pc|dA|pc|h8|pg||
pc|h9|pc|h7|pc|s2|pc|c8|pg||
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qx|o16|st||md|2SKJHKJ973D97CA985,SA64HT8642DKJ65C4,ST92H5DQT432CQJ76,SQ8753HAQDA8CKT32|sv|e|mb|p|mb|p|mb|1S|mb|d|mb|2N!|mb|p|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|pc|d9|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|d7|pc|d5|pc|dT|pg||
pc|h5|pc|hA|pc|h3|pc|h2|pg||
pc|s3|pc|sJ|pc|sA|pc|s9|pg||
pc|dK|pc|d2|pc|hQ|pc|sK|pg||
pc|hK|nt|roswolf: rehi all|pg||
pc|h4|nt|bigtrain: re geoffrey|pg||
pc|d4|pc|s5|pg||
pc|cK|pc|cA|pc|c4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|d3|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c5|pc|s4|nt|bigtrain: looks like the smith signal in trump won't end yp hurting them|pg||
pc|c7|pg||
pc|d6|pc|s2|pc|s8|pc|c8|pg||
pc|c3|pc|c9|pc|s6|pc|cJ|pg||
pc|hT|pc|sT|pc|sQ|pc|h7|pg||
pc|cT|pc|h9|pc|h8|pc|cQ|pg||
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qx|c16|st||md|2SKJHKJ973D97CA985,SA64HT8642DKJ65C4,ST92H5DQT432CQJ76,SQ8753HAQDA8CKT32|sv|e|nt|brolucius: Declarer played trump to the ace, I am told.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  felt unhappy afterward, I presume|pg||
nt|pelu: as expectet (not Murat) also 1 NT in OR in Board 4|pg||
nt|pelu: west lost count|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: that usually means our vugraf operator will soon close this table and reopen it to establish the link to the other table|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: what shld tokay do? dbl?|pg||
mb|1N|mb|2H|an| |nt|brolucius: 4@D made against the 300 here, so a big swing to Badger.|pg||
nt|paulg:  i was wondering if South would overcall 1@s, easier to overcall 1NT perhaps|pg||
nt|granguru:  probasbly e could have avoided the mistake overtaking @D and playing @c9|pg||
nt|paulg:  west cannot make a penalty double these days|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: again 1Nt with a 5 card @S - |pg||
mb|2N|an| |nt|murat: and now ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: North was in 3NT at the other table, doubled and ran to 4@D.|pg||
nt|paulg:  2@h will be hearts and a minor, so North asks|pg||
mb|3C|nt|murat: not the best lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: 3d could be makable but tokay wasnt sure about 5 cards @d|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|rcerreto:  do EW play transfer?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Transfers opposite 1@C are popular.|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: With four aces missing, it seems that the three-level may be high enough.|pg||
nt|pelu: that the problem with 1@D opening - partner dont know if u have 2 or 5 :)|pg||
nt|pelu: some play for 4@s - but US never found the @s-fit|pg||
pc|c4|pc|cQ|pc|cK|nt|brolucius: Obviously East had read West for a much better hand than he holds.|pg||
pc|cA|pg||
nt|ralfwil: and I can´t see why...|pg||
pc|d9|pc|d6|pc|d2|nt|brolucius: Such a shame to lose IMPs unnecessarily when there are so many other ways of losing IMPs.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  could W consider his hand balanced?|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then open 1NT (or rebidding, if 1NT is weak)?|pg||
nt|brolucius: 3@C was presumably non-forcing, so it is hard to see how East had enough to look for an 11-trick game.|pg||
pc|dA|pg||
nt|ralfwil: If 1@s is´nt spades, 1nt from W looks normal for me |pg||
nt|murat: 9 tricks i guess|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|s4|pc|c6|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dK|pc|d3|pc|d8|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s3|pc|sJ|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I was asked twice the question "what are these people doing here" :)  probably looking at the strane flag combinations|pg||
nt|MolvaM: this is the European Opan Championship|pg||
nt|MolvaM: Open|pg||
pc|s6|pc|s9|pc|s5|pc|sK|pg||
nt|pelu: very nice defense|pg||
pc|c9|pc|h2|pc|cJ|pc|c3|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski wished he would have been in dummy now|pg||
pc|dQ|pc|cT|pc|h3|pc|d5|pg||
nt|brolucius: Going two down may make it seem a bit less of a disappointment.|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|granguru:  @Sq is a killer|pg||
pc|h7|pc|h4|pc|sT|pg||
nt|granguru:  was not bad |pg||
nt|granguru:  so it was a discard after all|pg||
mc|7|pg||
qx|c17|st||md|3SAT2H8DAQ7543CQ53,SQ9HA6543DJ8CJ742,S8743HQJD962CAT86,SKJ65HKT972DKTCK9|sv|o|nt|ralfwil: a wise man told me once - don´t take gifts, so @dK should be played to follow his advise|pg||
nt|brolucius: FIFA do not follow that advice.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so there is no restriction in countries and anybody can play with anybody from any country|pg||
nt|MolvaM: totally open event|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and even though its a European event, its open to people from other continents|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|mb|2D|nt|granguru:  S should have played a @H at trick 4 in tha last hand|pg||
mb|3H|mb|p|mb|p|nt|paulg:  3@h is the probably the value bid for Mahaffey, but many just put 4@h on the table and make it the opponents' problem|pg||
nt|pelu: East for sure dont like his hand after 2@D overcall|pg||
mb|p|pc|sT|nt|paulg:  South will pass, probably needs a fourth spade to double|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|brolucius: Some might play a weak-strong 2NT on the East cards, to differentiate between strong and distributional 3@D hands.|pg||
nt|pelu: what a lead - but he will have a new chance later|pg||
pc|s3|nt|rcerreto:  no way to play trumps from N|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  then it should make|pg||
nt|murat: anybody dbl with east hand ?|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  even misguessing @d|pg||
nt|MolvaM: not me|pg||
nt|murat: i mean after 4@h|pg||
nt|pelu: no|pg||
nt|paulg:  standard Polish lead, second highest from three|pg||
nt|granguru:  @SQ9 big helpers|pg||
pc|hA|pc|hJ|nt|rcerreto:  oops|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  they found the way|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Both losing semifinalists are awarded bronze medals. There is no playoff for third place (a good decision in my view)|pg||
nt|brolucius: East hoping for a heart ruff.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  yes, 3rd-4th place finals are dull|pg||
nt|brolucius: But neither team has a bronze medal in their sights at this moment.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  winning A and playing a @h back would have forced S to play trumps but...|pg||
pc|hT|nt|rcerreto:  this way has a chance to discard a @h on @s|pg||
nt|pelu: why sh he X?|pg||
pc|h8|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  a very good chance now|pg||
pc|h3|pc|hQ|pc|hK|nt|MolvaM: looks like 4 losers but declarer will still look for an endplay to get rid of the@s loser|pg||
nt|murat: for a save or for some money|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
pc|s5|pc|sA|nt|pelu: score now 13-1 for Lavazza|pg||
pc|s9|pc|s4|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c2|pc|cA|pc|c9|pg||
pc|d6|nt|pelu: @s4 sh ask for @c|pg||
pc|dT|pc|dQ|pc|d8|pg||
pc|dA|pc|dJ|nt|brolucius: 2NT was just made on the deal where E/W went two down in 4@C, so 8 IMPs to Zimmermann.|pg||
nt|pelu: that a DD analyse|pg||
pc|d2|pc|dK|pg||
nt|pelu: if u X for 1 down odds are against u: 3 / 5 IMP|pg||
nt|murat: right|pg||
nt|pelu: vuln and 2 / 5 non vuln|pg||
nt|MolvaM: baldursson has too many high cards and has to defend carefully to avoid being thrown in|pg||
nt|murat: he should win with the king now|pg||
mc|9|pg||
qx|o18|st||md|4SKJ9875H4DK964C92,SQHAJT7DAQT87CK87,SAT32H962D2CAQ653,S64HKQ853DJ53CJT4|sv|n|nt|bigtrain: solid defense|pg||
mb|p|mb|2S|mb|d|nt|roswolf: this could be feisty|pg||
mb|2N!|mb|3H|nt|roswolf: 4@S looks unouchable|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 11 tricks for n/s and 9 for e/w with best defense|pg||
nt|roswolf: untouchable|pg||
mb|p|nt|bigtrain: 2!N shows @C or @S fit that wants a @C lead|pg||
mb|4H|mb|4S|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: unlikely now for e/w to sacrifice|pg||
mb|d|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: in fact the worst of all possible worlds|pg||
pc|hA|pc|h2|pc|h5|pc|h4|pg||
nt|bigtrain: i really don't understand the final X|pg||
nt|roswolf: i certainly dont|pg||
pc|hJ|pc|h6|pc|hK|pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c8|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
pc|cA|pc|cT|pc|c9|pc|c7|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|nt|bigtrain: the @CK looks misplaced and the red suits don't look like 4 winners with all that length|pg||
pc|s9|pc|cK|pg||
pc|sK|pc|sQ|pc|s2|pc|s4|pg||
pc|s7|pc|d7|pc|sA|pc|s6|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
mc|11|nt|bigtrain: besides -- i know meckwell has a certain reputation but they are red vs white|pg||
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qx|c18|st||md|4SKJ9875H4DK964C92,SQHAJT7DAQT87CK87,SAT32H962D2CAQ653,S64HKQ853DJ53CJT4|sv|n|nt|rcerreto:  anyway, she guessed @d right|pg||
nt|brolucius: All plus scores gratefully received.|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  it was just a matter of overtricks then|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Can you stand another nail-biter, David?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes, I have taken my pills.|pg||
nt|pelu: sorru on East|pg||
nt|granguru:  panski is trying to cash all defensive tricks bfore it is too late|pg||
mb|p|mb|2D|an| |nt|granguru:  S multi 2@D|pg||
nt|paulg:  good result for Meckwell in the other room (probably not the last time we'll say that in this championship)|pg||
mb|d|nt|paulg:  I've noticed many pairs treat the Multi 2@d as weak with spades when it comes to their 2nd seat defence|pg||
nt|pelu: and 5@H close to make on a small @S-lead |pg||
nt|paulg:  it's rare to see that in the UK, but would work here|pg||
nt|paulg:  3@h from North?|pg||
mb|4D|an| |nt|Walddk3: No credit for my hy-phen?|pg||
nt|pelu: for D = balanced 12-15 or any 16+|pg||
nt|pelu: for me|pg||
mb|4H|nt|paulg:  that is the norm in the UK too|pg||
mb|4S|nt|paulg:  4@d will be 'bid your major' (4@c would have been transfer to your major)|pg||
nt|granguru:  yes many play 2@D x= short in @S |pg||
mb|5H|nt|pelu: wd by West|pg||
nt|granguru:  and 2@d - 2@h 5+ @H|pg||
nt|paulg:  this is similar to the situation in the Open Room, where West doubled|pg||
nt|pelu: forcing pass in N?|pg||
mb|5S|nt|brolucius: Be careful because jtr is watching.|pg||
mb|p|nt|ralfwil: ??? dbl from me as E|pg||
nt|paulg:  surely not a forcing pass situation|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: but East help him, in on @CK he played @D - ruff, @C to A @S to 10 and duck - and now endplayed - East sh play @C back and no endplay|pg||
mb|d|nt|rcerreto:  a cheap save on 4@h|pg||
nt|brolucius: 4@S has escaped a double, but the cards lie well for declarer so the lack of a double will not cost E/W much.|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|ralfwil: but still a dbl....|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: why not - u have bid game Red against green |pg||
pc|hA|nt|pelu: its for me a good standard rule|pg||
pc|h2|pc|h8|nt|brolucius: Had the cards lain differently, not doubling might have waved goodbye to 500 or so.|pg||
nt|brolucius: East may have feared a third-hand opener, but her side was vulnerable.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: a thirs hand opening, but I can take 170 extra if declarer makes|pg||
nt|brolucius: West does not know that partner holds 10 points, so he cannot double 4@S even with an extra value or so. |pg||
nt|ralfwil: but shouldn´t E?|pg||
nt|pelu: now N can make 1NT - topplay @Hs and only 6 tricks for EW|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
pc|h7|nt|Walddk3: The contract is doubled at both tables in the other match|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|nt|brolucius: Quite right.|pg||
pc|s5|pg||
pc|c2|pc|c7|pc|cQ|pc|c4|pg||
nt|murat: he should played the Ace @h|pg||
pc|s2|pc|s4|nt|paulg:  it is a good standard rule for me too, but not when one hand has pre-empted|pg||
pc|sK|nt|brolucius: Now East may grab @CA.|pg||
nt|dburn: chances are that since East didn't double here South might get the clubs wrong|pg||
pc|sQ|pg||
pc|sJ|pc|d7|pc|s3|nt|murat: now he's in trouble|pg||
pc|s6|pg||
nt|pelu: for me "multi" is nor real preemt - just a semicontructiv opening bid|pg||
pc|c9|nt|pelu: wrong @hA ok if 3-3 and @H 10 nevber correct|pg||
pc|c8|pc|cA|pc|cT|pg||
nt|murat: did he really discard @h ?|pg||
pc|c3|pc|cJ|pc|s7|nt|murat: probably not|pg||
pc|cK|pg||
nt|vugraphplb: yes he did|pg||
mc|11|pg||
qx|o19|st||md|1SKQ742HT3DJ4CT653,SAJTHJ75DA865CAKJ,S865H9842DT3C9742,S93HAKQ6DKQ972CQ8|sv|e|mb|p|mb|1C|mb|p|mb|2D|nt|roswolf: well e/w have an opportunity to shine in the slam zone|pg||
mb|2S|mb|3D|mb|p|mb|3H|nt|roswolf: 7nt is best with 7@D a close second|pg||
mb|p|mb|3S|mb|p|mb|4D|mb|p|nt|roswolf: if any grand is easy to bid - this must be|pg||
mb|4N|mb|p|nt|MolvaM: the results page http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg||
mb|5S|mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: oh well not so easy|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|nt|roswolf: commentators curse strikes again:)|pg||
pc|s8|pc|s3|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
pc|d5|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|c19|st||md|1SKQ742HT3DJ4CT653,SAJTHJ75DA865CAKJ,S865H9842DT3C9742,S93HAKQ6DKQ972CQ8|sv|e|nt|ralfwil: but perhaps only 2 imps|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  should she risk -420 to get 100 instead of 50?|pg||
nt|dburn: risk? what risk?|pg||
nt|brolucius: Better to risk a double in the first place.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: An excellent 6@D now|pg||
nt|dburn: declarer could have the singleton king of clubs only if she had about ten cards rather than thirteen|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  can declarer have one more @d one less @c?|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@d on NS - a nice contract|pg||
nt|rcerreto:  N was declarer, I think|pg||
nt|Walddk3: In theory, there is a club ruff, but fortunately for declarer, the defender with the singleton club also has @DA|pg||
nt|brolucius: An interesting bidding test. If they bid it, I will applaud.|pg||
nt|brolucius: 6@C is more tricky and that might be reached.|pg||
nt|Walddk3: They may arrive in 6@C, though|pg||
nt|Walddk3: With problems on a spade lead|pg||
nt|brolucius: Yes.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: can they make 1C after a @c lead? I doubt|pg||
nt|brolucius: This is the sort of board we were hoping for. No-one wants these matches to be decided on small margins after some drab boards.|pg||
nt|ralfwil: sry @s lead|pg||
nt|ralfwil: 6@c after a @s lead....|pg||
mb|p|mb|1D|nt|brolucius: If one side wins after doing better on the big boards, then good luck to them - (even if they are not from England)|pg||
nt|murat: that was unexpected|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the contract went both ways during play and finally declarer came out as the winner|pg||
nt|paulg:  Seeing your partner pass when you have a balanced zero count is never good|pg||
mb|p|mb|1H|nt|pelu: 34 HCP - I exp slam with most tables|pg||
nt|paulg:  1@s now from South?|pg||
mb|2S|mb|2N|nt|ralfwil: If declarer plays @d before havinc cleaned trumps, another @s will set up a trumph trick|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: D'Ovidio has started well by emphasizing the diamonds before supporting clubs.|pg||
mb|3S|nt|Walddk3: 6@C in the closed room|pg||
nt|Walddk3: Waiting for the lead|pg||
nt|Walddk3: @SQ|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: but not so easy to bid the Grand|pg||
nt|granguru:  7@D should be|pg||
mb|3N|nt|brolucius: Ouch!|pg||
nt|murat: would you also prefer 2@s ?|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: Imagine winning the board with 3NT.|pg||
nt|brolucius: A spade lead would not beat 3NT if clubs were 3-2.|pg||
nt|brolucius: not beat 6@C, I mean|pg||
mb|4D|nt|ralfwil: true!|pg||
nt|paulg:  tougher when you have not shown your 5-card support for partner|pg||
mb|p|nt|pelu: roller-coaster :)|pg||
mb|4H|nt|MolvaM: this is interesting|pg||
nt|murat: Tokay should work some |pg||
nt|MolvaM: has to keep south out|pg||
mb|p|mb|6D|mb|p|mb|p|nt|pelu: would u X in West or bid 2Nt?|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would have started with 2@d (inverted) personally, even if showing your 4-card major first seems to be growing in popularity|pg||
mb|p|pc|s6|nt|pelu: but then u would mis a 4-4 fit in @H - pd could be 4-4-3-2|pg||
pc|s3|nt|murat: dbl i guess|pg||
nt|pelu: for 100% 2NT|pg||
nt|MolvaM: I would bid 2nt|pg||
nt|pelu: 2NT = 16-19, D + 2Nt = 20+|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|sA|pg||
pc|dA|pc|d3|nt|MolvaM: whenever I double, lefty bids 4@h and pd bids 4@s with 4 cards|pg||
pc|d2|pc|d4|pg||
nt|murat: i prefer 2NT with 15-17 |pg||
nt|murat: bad 18|pg||
pc|d6|pc|dT|pc|dK|pc|dJ|pg||
nt|pelu: many play that 1@D - 2@D = no 4 card major|pg||
mc|13|pg||
qx|o20|st||md|2S94H9874DAJ8CK652,S53HKJT62DQT4CQ98,SAKT76HQ3D653CAT7,SQJ82HA5DK972CJ43|sv|b|nt|roswolf: have we played bd17?|pg||
nt|bigtrain: was wondering about the missing result myself|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|mb|p|mb|1N|nt|bigtrain: 1NT is semi-forcing|pg||
mb|p|nt|roswolf: yes, 4@H-1 by E -can you enter this into the movie operator!?|pg||
mb|2C|mb|p|nt|vugraphplE: done|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|roswolf: 1nt looks the normal contract - which wont be possible now|pg||
nt|bigtrain: 2@C is generally 4+ because they usually pass with 5332s - with a hand that bids over 2NT they treat 1NT as forcing and bid 2@C (or 2@D)|pg||
pc|c3|nt|roswolf: thank you pawel:)|pg||
nt|bigtrain: IMO meck would have passed with the N hand (or opened 1NT) :)|pg||
pc|c2|pc|cQ|pc|cA|pg||
pc|sA|pc|s2|pc|s4|pc|s3|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s6|pc|sJ|nt|roswolf: We are now on the last board of the set. Thanks to our operator, Pawel - Great Job! Our appreciation to all the organisers for ensuring that this fine event is brought to BBO ...|pg||
nt|roswolf: vugraph. Thanks too to my very learned fellow commentator Walter for his company and perceptive comments and to our specs whose contributions keep us on our toes.|pg||
pc|c5|pc|c8|pg||
pc|h6|pc|hQ|pc|hA|pc|h4|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|h3|pg||
pc|hT|pc|c7|pc|cJ|pc|h8|pg||
pc|sQ|nt|bigtrain: Geoffrey - when does the next segment start?|pg||
nt|roswolf: scheduled re-start in 35 mins approx|pg||
nt|vugraphplE: 17:30|pg||
pc|cK|pc|h2|pc|s7|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cT|pc|c4|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d2|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
pc|d6|pc|d7|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pg||
pc|d4|pc|d3|pc|dK|pc|dA|pg||
pc|d8|pc|dT|pc|d5|pc|d9|pg||
nt|roswolf: bye for now|pg||
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qx|c20|st||md|2S94H9874DAJ8CK652,S53HKJT62DQT4CQ98,SAKT76HQ3D653CAT7,SQJ82HA5DK972CJ43|sv|b|nt|Walddk3: 12 IMPs not the end of the world at this point|pg||
nt|ralfwil: another slam|pg||
nt|brolucius: So, Allerton-Leslie will think that they may have had a very big board.|pg||
nt|pelu: same did N :)|pg||
nt|paulg:  i would be bidding hearts on the next round|pg||
nt|granguru:  I think it is the correct way |pg||
nt|pelu: yes and that would show @H-stopper and bad @ss|pg||
nt|pelu: the problem - at boprt tables was Ss bold @s-bid|pg||
mb|p|mb|1S|nt|brolucius: A question of RKCB when the spade fit comes to light.|pg||
mb|p|nt|MolvaM: for kibs who ask|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the other table scores are unreachable|pg||
nt|murat: Lavazza should get the comfortable lead|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but lavaza leads by a comfortable margin of approx 30 imps|pg||
mb|1N|mb|p|nt|ralfwil: 4@c from me as W|pg||
nt|Walddk3: So Zimmermann by 6 in a minute|pg||
nt|pelu: sory a solid win for Lawazza - my calculations (:)) 37-1|pg||
mb|2C|an| |nt|Walddk3: Multon won the diamond at trick 2 and paused for a while before he played another spade|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: E/W fighting bravely, but hard to imagine that it will be successfully.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: that looked like broadcasting a football match on radio :)|pg||
mb|2S|nt|pelu: a very normal way to bid on Ns hand|pg||
nt|paulg:  I played Mahaffey on vugraph in last year's Rosenblum ... luckily Meckwell were in Nickell's team on that occasion|pg||
mb|p|nt|brolucius: All good pairs will know what to do after intervention over 4NT (in theory....)|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The Vriend team on their way to the final; 32-9 after a slam swing on board 23, like here|pg||
mb|p|mb|p|nt|murat: :)|pg||
nt|pelu: same contract in OR|pg||
pc|d2|nt|pelu: 10 tricks|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the open event at this stage consists of short matches of 10 boards|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so this is the last hand of the segment|pg||
pc|d8|nt|paulg:  I think 1NT as semi-forcing is quite popular, where North might pass 1NT?|pg||
pc|dT|pc|d6|pg||
nt|Walddk3: The official site has a score of 30-27 in this match. Not easy to know what to believe|pg||
nt|brolucius: Cronier may fear a diamond ruff in 6@S, because he has offered the lower-scoring slam with excellent spade support.|pg||
nt|MolvaM: many thanks to our commentators peter lund, and murat anter|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and our operator michal |pg||
pc|h6|pc|h3|pc|hA|nt|MolvaM: and our kibitzers|pg||
pc|h4|pg||
nt|murat: my pleasure. thx everyone|pg||
nt|MolvaM: the next segment starts soon|pg||
pc|d7|pc|dA|nt|Walddk3: I trust our operators until proven wrong|pg||
pc|d4|nt|bigtrain: meckwell play semi-forcing...  generally speaking meck passes all 5332s while eric bids on with 5332 maxs|pg||
pc|d3|pg||
nt|granguru:  1@D 1@H (2@S) 2N 4@D(RKCB) 4@H(3) 4@S(Q ask) 4N (noQ)5@C(cab) 5@H(2nd round) 7@D|pg||
pc|s4|pc|s3|pc|sA|pc|s2|pg||
nt|pelu: next match in 30 min|pg||
pc|sK|pc|s8|pc|s9|pc|s5|pg||
pc|s7|pc|sJ|pc|c2|nt|MolvaM: there are stars from each country|pg||
nt|MolvaM: including all europeans|pg||
nt|MolvaM: and the world champions from usa meckstroth rodwell too|pg||
nt|MolvaM: so just stay with us|pg||
nt|MolvaM: unofficial score is 37-1 lavazza|pg||
nt|MolvaM: but better check later with the website|pg||
nt|MolvaM: http://www.poznan2011.pl/results|pg||
nt|bigtrain: for instance here, 2@C generally shows 4+ for meck and 3+ for roddy :)|pg||
pc|h2|pg||
nt|paulg:  interesting difference in styles|pg||
nt|paulg:  I thought these top pairs/teams were supposed to simulate these situations and get a consensus|pg||
nt|pelu: how do they explai that on CC?|pg||
pc|sQ|pc|c5|nt|bigtrain: its a matter of style|pg||
pc|c8|pc|s6|pg||
nt|paulg:  well, kokish at least|pg||
nt|bigtrain: note i said generally speaking|pg||
nt|pelu: but their opp sh have that information|pg||
pc|dK|pc|dJ|pc|dQ|pc|d5|pg||
nt|pelu: general style = agreement = on CC|pg||
nt|bigtrain: they treat the 1NT as semi-forcing and announce it that way...  what they do as individuals is just my observation|pg||
pc|h5|pc|h7|pc|hK|pc|hQ|pg||
pc|cQ|pc|c7|pc|c3|pc|cK|pg||
pc|c6|pc|c9|pc|cA|pc|c4|pg||
nt|murat: bye all|pg||
pc|sT|pc|d9|pc|h8|pc|hT|pg||
pc|cT|pc|cJ|pc|h9|pc|hJ|pg||
nt|MolvaM: we dont know which matches will be show on vugraf|pg||
nt|paulg:  thanks all, ttfn|pg||
nt|pelu: I didnt make ? with their etic - for sure|pg||
nt|granguru:  c u |pg||
nt|granguru:  20 mins from now|pg||
nt|pelu: tx all - commentators, kibs and our operator - and spec to the very fine servece from the polish IT-operators|pg||
nt|jcomyn: not with scores like that you couldn be I was shocked|pg||
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